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.zero

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I've been out of town for the holiday but now i finally have time to talk about the horrific events that took place this past week in my birth city of mumbai, india. from watching the news and hearing things from family members all week long it was determined there were 29 paki's and 11 bangladeshi's who were the souless perpatrators.

unfortunately i came to learn that my family knew one of the victims in the hotel who was killed in the shootings. all we know is that he was able to call his wife from his cell when the hotel was first raided but sadly never made it out as he later executed by the waste of sperm known as terrorists.

the attacks were patterened around US and UK (western) passport holders. i don't know how the "cause" for kashmir was benefited by these attacks but all i can truly say is fuck kashmir. after years of battling for kashmir, the beauty that i was told of it by my parents is evidently no more. its a wasteland with a beautiful backdrop now.
 

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.zero

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    how so?

    are you saying that cuz they hit up a synagogue in mumbai?
     

    HelterSkelter

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    Expect a massive movement of troops on the Pakistan-India border now.Security officials in Pakistan have made it clear that incase the situation escalates,all our troops on the Afghanistan border helping out the US (around 100,000) will be shfited to the eastern border with India,and the US's war on terror will not longer be our first priority.The next 2-3 days could be crucial.

    Not good.

    PS.I heard some rumours on TV about a potential CIA involvement in the Mumbia killing,but i fail to see how that would benefit them.If anything,it hurts their war on terror a lot.
     

    Bjerknes

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    how so?

    are you saying that cuz they hit up a synagogue in mumbai?
    I'm saying that because the targets are Westerners for a reason. Just like most "terrorist" activity towards Westerners comes from people who disagree with the IDF bombing their Muslim friends, it's the same case in this event. Most of this stuff stems from the American support of Israel and Britain's stranglehold on various places throughout history.
     
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    the conspiracy theories can spew out all they want. this is too isolated of an event to have any U.S. involvement. its obvious who did this according to the reports.
     

    Bjerknes

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    Expect a massive movement of troops on the Pakistan-India border now.Security officials in Pakistan have made it clear that incase the situation escalates,all our troops on the Afghanistan border helping out the US (around 100,000) will be shfited to the eastern border with India,and the US's war on terror will not longer be our first priority.The next 2-3 days could be crucial.

    Not good.

    PS.I heard some rumours on TV about a potential CIA involvement in the Mumbia killing,but i fail to see how that would benefit them.If anything,it hurts their war on terror a lot.
    Ahh, but the CIA orchestrating an event such as this could make sense. Remember, the United States was able to advance itself out of the Great Depression through investment in war. I'm not saying that's the case here, but I find it possible that a war in the general area could benefit parties involved with the CIA. Sort of similar to the Russian-Georgian conflict this past summer.
     

    HelterSkelter

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    the conspiracy theories can spew out all they want. this is too isolated of an event to have any U.S. involvement. its obvious who did this according to the reports.
    Be blunt,and point a direct finger at Pakistan.But when you do that,do keep in mind that the extremist elements in Pakistan,and the official Pakistani stance on the whole thing,are two very different issues.The killings could very well be supported by extremists in Pakistan,but that does not make the Pakistani goverment,or the ISI responsible for this very act.
     

    Bjerknes

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    Be blunt,and point a direct finger at Pakistan.But when you do that,do keep in mind that the extremist elements in Pakistan,and the official Pakistani stance on the whole thing,are two very different issues.The killings could very well be supported by extremists in Pakistan,but that does not make the Pakistani goverment,or the ISI responsible for this very act.
    I'd take a gander and say that the probability of the Pakistani government having something to due with the attacks is 0.3.

    ßüякε;1820116 said:
    Oh no, Andy and Israel....
    It's the truth though. If we didn't support Israel, we wouldn't have so many problems.
     

    HelterSkelter

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    Id say the probability of the Pakistani government being involved here is minus 0.03.

    A conflict before we both became nuclear powers was a seperate issue,but now it would be nothing short of horrendous.And if this issue gets bigger,then this wont be an Pakistan-India war.It could well turn out to be a regional war.IMO,the ingredients for a full blooded conflict between Pakistan and India are there...the recent tissue over water which is much more serious than it looks,then you have this issue,the Siachin issue etc.But im hoping the situation can be diffused.
     

    Bjerknes

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    ßüякε;1820123 said:
    Ohh I agree, but it is not like other than that we are cool as shit and are the cat's meow in the Mid East.
    The various governments in the Middle East are for the most part in cahoots with the US government, such as KSA and Qatar. Lebanon doesn't have much of a problem with us. The only country in there that is problematic is Syria, which has ties to Hezbollah, one of the factions that is against our support for Israel.

    Come on, lets be honest here. The majority of hate towards us is due to our support for Israel. This whole, "they hate us for our freedom" nonsense needs to stop IMO.
     

    Bjerknes

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    Nah, the KSA government loves us due to our oil addiction. They're in cahoots with the US-based petroleum industry which is very much on the mind of Bush, Rice and Cheney. Big oil heaven.
     

    jukazem

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    I've been out of town for the holiday but now i finally have time to talk about the horrific events that took place this past week in my birth city of mumbai, india. from watching the news and hearing things from family members all week long it was determined there were 29 paki's and 11 bangladeshi's who were the souless perpatrators.
    No way there were that many Bangladesi's and no Indian Muslims involved, for all I know there aren't any Bangladeshi's who can think of these acts without some Indian Muslim bringing it to them. The extremist outfits in my country aren't active in my country and probably recruitement service for indian muslim extremist groups.

    Most Bangladeshi muslims hardly pick themselves up to go to the Friday prayer and there too there are no sermons as aggresive as some of the ones I have to hear, here in London, it's almost embarassing to say prayer with this people here.


    Id say the probability of the Pakistani government being involved here is minus 0.03.
    Minus something is not realistic, anyways I wanted to add that the probability of Bangladesh's government's involvement is zero, because Bangladesh has no government at this moment.:)
     

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