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avery

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Jul 23, 2011
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Marchisio for Vucinic no thanks
I rate them at the same price but swaping them means we need a CM and its the same problem again

Sign a great LW Hazard Robben or whoever it is sign a great CB and just then we should look at a forward

A forward would strengthen us but is not a must given our situation
A LW and a CB are much more needed here
Agree. Our top Priority should be 1.Top class LM & Top class CB, then a SS.

Which players

LM - Hazard/Nani

CB - Subotic/Hummels

SS - Jovetic/Aguero

Tbh Players like Juan, Bastos, Vargas, are not the long term answer's, and you know if we signed one of them, we would probably want to replace them the following season, but if we signed a Nani or a Hazard for LM & a Jovetic for SS, they would be there for many seasons to come, same with Hummels, Subotic, etc plus they have great re-sale value. Hazard/Nani can replace Nedved's LM position but a Bastos cannot.
 

Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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Scrapping Aquero/Rossi/Pastore for top class LM,LB and CB would be a wise move indeed.
But keep wasting money on more mediocre/average CMs and SSs instead is idiotic and we do this every year and it seems likely that we will do this year as well (Vucinic+Vidal)
we just add more of the same (Amauri+Melo) without actually upgrading our squad and lose millions in the process...
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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Really? Is vucunic a great player? no, not really, not even close. Is he that much better than Quag/Matri? again probably not. And if we do sell Marchisio, we'd need to sign another CM since we already stupidly loaned Melo, and considering we don't have any money and that Marotta isn't the best GM/SD, am not sure about that deal, sidesways move tbh.
Where in my post did I say that Vucinic is a great player?

Marchisio is valued at 6 M€ that is if one wants to be generous, add 3 Million to that making Vucinic at 9 Million, a very decent price for a good player who will give much more than Marchisio.

And why would we need to buy another CM if we buy Marchisio if Marchisio is used as left midfielder? So we can deploy the new CM also out of position?
 
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Agree. Our top Priority should be 1.Top class LM & Top class CB, then a SS.

Which players

LM - Hazard/Nani

CB - Subotic/Hummels

SS - Jovetic/Aguero

Tbh Players like Juan, Bastos, Vargas, are not the long term answer's, and you know if we signed one of them, we would probably want to replace them the following season, but if we signed a Nani or a Hazard for LM & a Jovetic for SS, they would be there for many seasons to come, same with Hummels, Subotic, etc plus they have great re-sale value. Hazard/Nani can replace Nedved's LM position but a Bastos cannot.
Who's the girl in your avatar?
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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In Italy they already started a campaign to keep Marchisio. Last month we heard "GIU LE MANI DA MARCHISIO" (Hands off Marchisio) chants and facebook groups and now Juve fans and experts all over the Italian media are begging and warning not to sell Marchisio.

http://www.tuttojuve.com/?action=read&idnotizia=57372

Until the Italian Juve fans would kill to keep our Italian mediocrity and they prefer Rossi to world class players, Marotta will do everything to satisfy the home fans. They even make it easier for him when they prefer cheaper Italians to more expensive world class players.
 

avery

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Jul 23, 2011
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JCK

I get your point. But is signing Vucunic, who isn't a great player, and not much better than Quag, and then needing to sign another CM, with little money and with Marotta as GM worth it? Marchiso is an ordinary player in my opinion, and would get rid if i knew we would sign quality replacement like M'villa/Banega/Pjanic, etc but Vucunic is by no means the answer for our SS issue.
 
Jul 1, 2010
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JCK

I get your point. But is signing Vucunic, who isn't a great player, and not much better than Quag, and then needing to sign another CM, with little money and with Marotta as GM worth it? Marchiso is an ordinary player in my opinion, and would get rid if i knew we would sign quality replacement like M'villa/Banega/Pjanic, etc but Vucunic is by no means the answer for our SS issue.
The advantage of Vucinic is that he can play in a 4-3-3 on the wing while Quag can't. If Conte has a brain, he will switch to 4-3-3 after our midfield will get slaughtered in the first few games.
 

avery

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Jul 23, 2011
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In Italy they already started a campaign to keep Marchisio. Last month we heard "GIU LE MANI DA MARCHISIO" (Hands off Marchisio) chants and facebook groups and now Juve fans and experts all over the Italian media are begging and warning not to sell Marchisio.

http://www.tuttojuve.com/?action=read&idnotizia=57372

Until the Italian Juve fans would kill to keep our Italian mediocrity and they prefer Rossi to world class players, Marotta will do everything to satisfy the home fans. They even make it easier for him when they prefer cheaper Italians to more expensive world class players.
You know what, am with you guys, let's just sell him to just to piss them off:lol:
 

avery

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Jul 23, 2011
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The advantage of Vucinic is that he can play in a 4-3-3 on the wing while Quag can't. If Conte has a brain, he will switch to 4-3-3 after our midfield will get slaughtered in the first few games.
So is Vucunic supposed to be are "world class" SS signing then? i thought we were gonna play 4-2-4?
 
Jul 1, 2010
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So is Vucunic supposed to be are "world class" SS signing then? i thought we were gonna play 4-2-4?
4-2-4 will fail horribly with Pirlo in the midfield, we absolutely need to play 4-3-3, otherwise we're fucked.

Hopefully Conte will realize that sooner than later and apparently he's gonna use 4-3-3 for the next friendly match. I think he will use Martinez on the left(he was quite good ve Sporting).
 

avery

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Jul 23, 2011
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4-2-4 will fail horribly with Pirlo in the midfield, we absolutely need to play 4-3-3, otherwise we're fucked.

Hopefully Conte will realize that sooner than later and apparently he's gonna use 4-3-3 for the next friendly match. I think he will use Martinez on the left(he was quite good ve Sporting).
agree
 

avery

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Jul 23, 2011
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4-2-4 will fail horribly with Pirlo in the midfield, we absolutely need to play 4-3-3, otherwise we're fucked.

Hopefully Conte will realize that sooner than later and apparently he's gonna use 4-3-3 for the next friendly match. I think he will use Martinez on the left(he was quite good ve Sporting).
agree
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Agree. Our top Priority should be 1.Top class LM & Top class CB, then a SS.

Which players

LM - Hazard/Nani

CB - Subotic/Hummels

SS - Jovetic/Aguero

Tbh Players like Juan, Bastos, Vargas, are not the long term answer's, and you know if we signed one of them, we would probably want to replace them the following season, but if we signed a Nani or a Hazard for LM & a Jovetic for SS, they would be there for many seasons to come, same with Hummels, Subotic, etc plus they have great re-sale value. Hazard/Nani can replace Nedved's LM position but a Bastos cannot.
another idiot linking hazard and nani

nani will not step down to us, and hazard had 40 mil bid rejected.


also interesting how you claim to allready know conte's tactic, and that it will fail, while you hardly know what kind of player vidal is.
 
Jul 1, 2010
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also interesting how you claim to allready know conte's tactic, and that it will fail, while you hardly know what kind of player vidal is.
It's only common sense.

Pirlo can't be effective in a two men midfield, he has to play in 3 men midfield like he always has, even more now since he is slower than he was.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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It's only common sense.

Pirlo can't be effective in a two men midfield, he has to play in 3 men midfield like he always has, even more now since he is slower than he was.
and you think conte doesnt know this ?

conte, who won about every trofee there was to win with juventus, that was a pretty damn good centre midfielder himself ?

why cant vidal be the new essien ?
In germany, they were damn sure he was, else b munchen wouldnt be so butthurt that he signed for us.

really, dont jump to conclusions, we got an entire preseason ahead, and we are still missing 2 players
 
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and you think conte doesnt know this ?

conte, who won about every trofee there was to win with juventus, that was a pretty damn good centre midfielder himself ?

why cant vidal be the new essien ?
In germany, they were damn sure he was, else b munchen wouldnt be so butthurt that he signed for us.

really, dont jump to conclusions, we got an entire preseason ahead, and we are still missing 2 players
Vidal is most effective as a box to box midfielder, not as a DM.

Conte might have been a great CM but it doesn't mean he's well versed in tactics, as far as I am concerned he is unproven as a coach.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Vidal is most effective as a box to box midfielder, not as a DM.

Conte might have been a great CM but it doesn't mean he's well versed in tactics, as far as I am concerned he is unproven as a coach.
conte managed promotion twice, and failed at a serie a team because they couldnt handle his passion and determination because atalanta are a bunch of dickless pussies


here at juve, the supporters will totally tolerate him going bezerk on players who suck and dont put blood sweat and tears in their game to stop sucking.
and the entire old guard will applaud this.

he will make it, he knows how to organise a back line, can play attractive football yet conceding little, and was and is a midfield mastermind

forza conte
 
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