Miloš Krasić (21 Viewers)

awit

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Jan 10, 2010
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Has Del Piero even once in his career dived without contact? It's different diving when you feel like you've been fouled (for emphasis so the ref can see it) and pure cheating. If you think winning by cheating is ok, I guess bribing the refs is the logical thing to do.
 

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Cuti

The Real MC
Jul 30, 2006
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I think DN took Krasic off cause he seemed really effected by the fans/bologna players cause of the dive; he seemed completely lost and had no confidence in the second half.
Hopefully Del Neri speaks to him through out this week, cause we need him at full flow against Milan
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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Has Del Piero even once in his career dived without contact? It's different diving when you feel like you've been fouled (for emphasis so the ref can see it) and pure cheating. If you think winning by cheating is ok, I guess bribing the refs is the logical thing to do.
I don't see much difference man. Diving is diving. It's cheating in both cases so you can't look at one dive as cheating and at another dive as non-cheating.
There is not pure cheating and little cheating. If the player can stay on his feet but he decides to fall down at the slightest contact or without any contact, then it's a dive.
 

ajit

Senior Member
Dec 19, 2005
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lol, i didnt watch the game but i keep laughing how people are bashing Krasic for making a dive......Del Piero is probably the biggest diver in our team and still he somehow manages to get fouls and penalties till this day.....
Nobody is bashing Krasic here. Our man has to learn the art of diving, thats all.

Has Del Piero even once in his career dived without contact? It's different diving when you feel like you've been fouled (for emphasis so the ref can see it) and pure cheating. If you think winning by cheating is ok, I guess bribing the refs is the logical thing to do.
:tup:

I think DN took Krasic off cause he seemed really effected by the fans/bologna players cause of the dive; he seemed completely lost and had no confidence in the second half.
Hopefully Del Neri speaks to him through out this week, cause we need him at full flow against Milan
Agreed.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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So what if Alex and Krasic take dives or go down easily. Every fucking team has somebody that does, so who cares? Robingo goes down easily for Milan, Milito has taken dives before, Menez has gone down easily, et cetera.

Of course, since we are Juve and Krasic is a foreign player, this instance will be blown out of proportion. But I don't really care as long as he isn't banned. I don't care what other fans think of Krasic and the club, and in some ways I want the whole "cheating Juve" tagline to arise again. Upsetting opposition fans brings a smile to my face.
 

awit

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Jan 10, 2010
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Also the dive looked so awkward that i was really surprised it resulted in a penalty instead of a yellow card. Even if we got a penalty this time, it was a stupid move that might indeed get him suspended
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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I don't see much difference man. Diving is diving. It's cheating in both cases so you can't look at one dive as cheating and at another dive as non-cheating.
There is not pure cheating and little cheating. If the player can stay on his feet but he decides to fall down at the slightest contact or without any contact, then it's a dive.
Diving definitely is diving :)D), but that is the point - when someone goes down from a little touch or plays for the foul (not an offence in itself) then you can't say this is a dive. I'm thinking Del Piero's non-penalty against Palermo, for example. It might be or might not be from the player, but there is little concrete way or telling, so the ref has to make his mind up.

Krasic's was a 100% dive, knocks the ball past him, the defender goes to make a challenge and then pulls out, Krasic is expecting some contact and starts to fall even though the defender has stopped. Looked a bit silly tbh. When it is obvious like this then it becomes a problem, because everyone knows it is a dive. Krasic could just as easily be booked for diving (hasn't he already, for a lesser offence?). So then he is walking on a tightrope for the rest of the match. Look at one moment in the second half, he squeezed between two players, took a big contact and just stumbled and stayed on his feet when he would otherwise, and should have, gone down. As someone said earlier, it certainly seemed to affect him afterwards, whether the fans or players got to him. A guilty conscience maybe, but at least that sets him apart from Ronaldo et al who would dive on a card and risk it.

I hope Krasic doesn't try to take contact and stay on his feet all the time now because of this, he is like Nedved and does draw a lot of fouls, especially as he runs at such pace, and he doesn't have the physique to get into running battles all game.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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I can't remember Totti or Del Piero dive like that their entire careers tbh, take a touch and fall down many many times, but leap through the air? Maybe Krasic just needs to hone his technique a little, like what Nedved did.

I know he is the golden boy right now and the sun shines out of his arse but I'd prefer personally if he just played his football and took touches and went down like so far this season. When you start leaping through the air with no contact like that then it starts to affect getting other decisions, and it will cost him and us, seen it with guys like Ronaldo earlier in his career where he started to get fouled all over the place and nothing was given.
You really don't like him, do you? Most of your posts about him give such an impression.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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So what if Alex and Krasic take dives or go down easily. Every fucking team has somebody that does, so who cares? Robingo goes down easily for Milan, Milito has taken dives before, Menez has gone down easily, et cetera.

Of course, since we are Juve and Krasic is a foreign player, this instance will be blown out of proportion. But I don't really care as long as he isn't banned. I don't care what other fans think of Krasic and the club, and in some ways I want the whole "cheating Juve" tagline to arise again. Upsetting opposition fans brings a smile to my face.
True what you say, although I'm not sure about the whole 'foreign player' thing, more to do with the club. Kaka had about 15 penalties given on him a season for little.
 

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