Michel Bastos - LW - Olympique Lyonnais (23 Viewers)

[Dostoevsky]

http://www.football-italia.net/aug08i.html

OK, where did all the 60M Euros in "sales" come from? Most of the players we let go this summer were co-owns or loans like Caceres and Candreva, or they were players worth very little.

The players mentioned in the article have not even been sold yet, and one might not even bring us one single Euro.

It's how much we get for those who are supposed to leave. But not only that but I assume they meant years of their contract (wages) * taxes.

 

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[Bjerknes]

It's how much we get for those who are supposed to leave. But not only that but I assume they meant years of their contract (wages) * taxes.

I don't know why they would include wages into this as those are business overhead costs. If we sign new players, they will be paid wages anyway. So Tuttosport is lying when saying we have that amount of capital to spend in the transfer market.

But even if you do include wages, I doubt the total is 60M Euros. Then we also have to remember we already signed players.

BS article probably, based on nothing.

 

[noussa]

we will end up with Krasic and other LB i guess....

 

[Hust]

Maybe they think Agnelli has already chipped into that 60m figure but then again no one would know how much.

 

[VicCB]

i will explain another point why i said that i don't want Braziian players here. even am not forced to do it but i would like to share it with the folks here and if u don't like it ,u can give me a -rep as u like but just write your name with it

anyway besides the overpricing factor. somehow they remind me of Egyptian players who plays abroad they lack professionalism and have bad attitude. i mean even the only Brazilian player that i wanted to have him here when he was the best on the planet 'God!! he was perfect'' ronaldinho somehow he fucked up his life just like that and nobody expect him to do this.
most of Brazilian players just tends to go through a point in their life and then fuck it up and i saw that a lot i mean a lot!!!! specially the recent generation it's really rare to find that professional player who gives u all. and that gives me this unsecured feel. in the other side i like an European player like Nedved who is a big example of professionalism. someone here mentioned Maicon as a good example of Brazilian player with his obvious technical abilities of course. but i would be happy if i don't have a player who tells his fans to ''shut the fuck up''

of course they have some classy players like every country. but why should i risk like this when i can get a similar player or even better with the same or even lower price.

That's a bit of a generalization though. For any Adriano or Ronaldinho that just can't keep themselves from partying and boozing to death, there's tons of Brazilian players that are very professional and work for their club.

I can't say Melo has been the most professional of players, with all his fighting with the ultras and everything, but Amauri and Diego have not had any issues in that respect.

In short, it's kinda like you saying you don't like black people because a few are delinquents.

 

[vodka]

we will end up with Krasic and other LB i guess....

hope

 

[Red]

Maybe they think Agnelli has already chipped into that 60m figure but then again no one would know how much.

Or maybe Tuttosprt is just making things up.

 

[Bjerknes]

Or maybe Tuttosprt is just making things up.

 

[Alen]

http://www.football-italia.net/aug08i.html

OK, where did all the 60M Euros in "sales" come from? Most of the players we let go this summer were co-owns or loans like Caceres and Candreva, or they were players worth very little.

The players mentioned in the article have not even been sold yet, and one might not even bring us one single Euro.

I don't know why they would include wages into this as those are business overhead costs. If we sign new players, they will be paid wages anyway. So Tuttosport is lying when saying we have that amount of capital to spend in the transfer market.

But even if you do include wages, I doubt the total is 60M Euros. Then we also have to remember we already signed players.

BS article probably, based on nothing.

They probably made some idiotic calculations where they included wages and pumped the number even more.

Like this:

Camoranesi = 0 eur on transfer fees + 6m eur on year wages (incl. taxes)
Grosso = 0 eur on transfer fees + 4m eur on wages
Poulsen = 6m eur on transfer fee + 6.6m eur on wages
Tiago = 5m eur on transfer fees + 5.2m eur on wages
Grygera = ~2m eur on transfer fees + 3.5m eur on wages
Sissoko = 10m eur on transfer fees + 4m eur on wages.

That's around 55m eur and they counted it as 60m eur.

In order to make it spectacular they didn't even mention that the new bought players will also take money for their wages and that it will actually be around 30m eur for new players+ money for their wages.

 

[HAZEM]

not the Captain of the club tho

not in our club.. all of them are so cool even Chiellini remember that we don't have Cassano

 

[HAZEM]

That's a bit of a generalization though. For any Adriano or Ronaldinho that just can't keep themselves from partying and boozing to death, there's tons of Brazilian players that are very professional and work for their club.

I can't say Melo has been the most professional of players, with all his fighting with the ultras and everything, but Amauri and Diego have not had any issues in that respect.

In short, it's kinda like you saying you don't like black people because a few are delinquents.

i didn't say that i don't like them (i like melo as a player he is good but he fucks it up even Maicon), they will cause a lot of problems and i don't like that. i just say avoid them IF U CAN cause they are unpredictable, i mean i swear to God i never expected that Ronladinho will lose his empire just like that i though he would fight to get the best of all time but he just fucked it up. they are poor people just like here in Egypt when they reach some limits they goes crazy and that's a fact. anyway people should calm down it's just my opinion.

 

[HAZEM]

i don't think we will go for a left winger this year cause we have Giovinco for the next year. if we get this year an expensive left winger then we won't get Giovinco!!

in the end give me Krasic

 

[X Æ A-12]

If Del Neri is still here next season than how can Giovinco come back?

He 'sees' gio as a forward not a winger so he will only get space if DP isn't here .

and he will still be behind Diego.

 

[Lucky Luke]

If Del Neri is still here next season than how can Giovinco come back?

He 'sees' gio as a forward not a winger so he will only get space if DP isn't here .

and he will still be behind Diego.

 

[X Æ A-12]

You don't think he will be? We will qualify for the CL and maybe make a long run in the Europa league which is what the board expects of him. Why would they sack him for it?

 

[HAZEM]

If Del Neri is still here next season than how can Giovinco come back?

He 'sees' gio as a forward not a winger so he will only get space if DP isn't here .

and he will still be behind Diego.

then we fucked up tbh i don' like our wingers at all. from Camo and Nedved to Martinez and pepe that's a historical gap.

 

[HAZEM]

You don't think he will be? We will qualify for the CL and maybe make a long run in the Europa league which is what the board expects of him. Why would they sack him for it?

this guy is just Raineri part 2 !!!

 

[X Æ A-12]

Pepe is poor but he adds certain aspects such as pace and energy, keeping Candreva would have been better. Martinez seems like a good player being played out of position so maybe he can adjust to it. They all seem like fine second choice wingers but the board shouldn't let Krasic slip away.

 

[X Æ A-12]

this guy is just Raineri part 2 !!!

Actually I think Ranieri was probably a better manager but Del Neri has the benefit of a better team and management behind him. I hear that there will be new medical and fitness staff as well. Hopefully the new board will be motivated to sack him and replace him with somebody better next summer even if he finishes in the top four.

 

[Lucky Luke]

You don't think he will be? We will qualify for the CL and maybe make a long run in the Europa league which is what the board expects of him. Why would they sack him for it?

i hope that he'll do a fine work here competing for the scudetto or at least finish in the top 3 and reach the final in the europa league (remember we need a lot of points to raise up in uefa coefficients)

i'm against sacking coaches during the regular season but honestly DN isnt the coach that makes me feel safe and secure.all i can do is hope for the best outcome and wait till the beginning of the season.


i'm affected by our previous horrible season and that makes me feel worried about every single match we play whether its against a strong or weak opponent