Messina and Torino Expelled From Serie A (1 Viewer)

Respaul

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Jul 14, 2002
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#23
++ [ originally posted by Boksic ] ++

Does anyone know the amount of debt these clubs are in? because Messina have sold Parisi which must have helped the finances slightly.
Torino require gaurantees for 40 milion euros

Messina i cant remember, but its a similar amount
 

Zlatan

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Jun 9, 2003
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#24
++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++

Just go through the documents on their websites, it's all there if you just bother to look for it.

TBH, that would have been a more Paul-like response :D ;)





EDIT: I actually made up Paul's quote, just so we avoid any confusion!
 
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Bjerknes

Bjerknes

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    ++ [ originally posted by djleli ] ++
    thats the spirit **** em all
    Don't you want your club to play in the best league in the world? The better the league the better you become as a team, and that helps progression in European competitions. The better teams you play week in week out, the more prepared you are for your midweek matches in Europe. Plus winning the Scudetto in the best league in the world is slightly better than winning it in an average league.
     

    djleli

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    Aug 12, 2004
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    #29
    messina have about -34m debt. and their problem is that they did not give their paper about how they are gonna diminish their debt. They've got a plan i think but they've handed it in late. same story goes for torino i think.

    venezia and another club have already failed and have to restart from serie c2
     

    Desmond

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    Jul 12, 2002
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    #30
    The only way I can think of ending this fiscal crisis that stems back from the Fiorentina days is for an extended period of European success for Italy.

    We could use another all Italian final or two to improve our dwindling coverage, and the injection of cash from CL will do us good.
     

    Mr. Gol

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    Sep 15, 2004
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    #31
    Actually the Italian clubs have done pretty good in Europe the last few years. But Italians are traditionally not very good when it comes to financial matters. Besides that the whole Italian economy is doing poor at the moment, and they have an enormous problem with the average age quickly rising, causing the healthcare costs going through the roof.
     

    Desmond

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    Jul 12, 2002
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    #32
    Of course we've done well, we've reached more CL finals than any other country in the last decade IIRC.It's just that it may be the only way; as hard as it may seem we may have to better that in the next five to eight years or so before half the teams in Serie A experience a meltdown.
     

    Respaul

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    Jul 14, 2002
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    #33
    so it continues....


    Italian teams charged with fraud
    Italian Serie B champions Genoa face demotion after been charged with sporting fraud along with Venezia.
    The case involves Genoa's final two games of the season when they drew 2-2 at Piacenza and beat Venezia 3-2 at home to return to Serie A after a 10-year absence.

    The Italian Football Federation said in a statement that Genoa president Enrico Preziosi, his son Matteo and general manager Stefano Capozucca have been indicted for "collaborating to achieve sporting fraud".

    Venezia's chairman Franco Dal Cin, director general Michele Dal Cin and general manager Giuseppe Pagliara have also been charged along with players Massimo Borgobello and Martin Lejsal.
     

    JCK

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    May 11, 2004
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    #34
    ++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++
    so it continues....


    Italian teams charged with fraud
    Italian Serie B champions Genoa face demotion after been charged with sporting fraud along with Venezia.
    The case involves Genoa's final two games of the season when they drew 2-2 at Piacenza and beat Venezia 3-2 at home to return to Serie A after a 10-year absence.

    The Italian Football Federation said in a statement that Genoa president Enrico Preziosi, his son Matteo and general manager Stefano Capozucca have been indicted for "collaborating to achieve sporting fraud".

    Venezia's chairman Franco Dal Cin, director general Michele Dal Cin and general manager Giuseppe Pagliara have also been charged along with players Massimo Borgobello and Martin Lejsal.
    All this is very bad news and we still have members here wishing some teams to go join Napoli in Serie C. Such a shame.
     

    Seven

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    Jun 25, 2003
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    #35
    It's terrible, but when you see Napoli playing in Serie C it can't get much worse. Not only is Napoli a great club, a city like Naples should have a football team going for the title year in year out as well.
     

    swag

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    Sep 23, 2003
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    #36
    Ugh. As much as I hated the author, these are all the negatives laid out at the end of The Miracle of Castel di Sangro.

    It would be great to see Genoa back in Serie A, given their long history in the game. But not under these circumstances.
     

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