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[AndreaCristiano]

That's fine, but in that case we should be keeping Pazienza. Unless we're bringing in Behrami, but now that we got Caceres, Behrami isn't so appealing.

it is interesting to me that after all these names it seems no one might show up, bar maybe candreva or keeping piacenza

 

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[j0ker]

it is interesting to me that after all these names it seems no one might show up, bar maybe candreva or keeping piacenza

I'd rather get Cagliari.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I'd rather get Cagliari.

i would be happy with candreva

 

[baggio]

You said he shouldn't be offered a new contract.

The question was, after a stunning mercato campaign, should we renew Marrotta? My answer was no. I stand by that. Its not really a question that will come up for debate in the current scenario as things stand, I'm well aware of that fact. I went on to explain my reasons why. I genuinely feel Marrotta is being made to look more adept at his job because results are in our favour and we have a coach who knows what he is doing.

In fact, it's ironic, I was really really happy when Marrotta was first appointed but very quickly realised the quality of the team he built in his first season. And even more ironic, was at the start of this campaign I was totally against Conte being appointed coach for the very reason that he had an amateur board behind him. While in discussion with Hustini before we got involved in our discussion, I went on to mention my biggest apprehension with Marrotta, leaving the last two years aside, is the time ahead.

Del Piero's retirement is going to leave a huge void in this team. It probably hasn't hit some of us, but I know the team will feel it even though they dint rely as much on him on the pitch. With perhaps a more than solid chance to qualify for Europe, I know this team is going to need that one game changer in our ranks. We are solely lacking that. And after two seasons, and spending close to what, 200 million we don't have one of those to show in our books? It could be argued that we didn't have Champions League, and we played in a shit, loser Serie A league but whats worrying is, that this is new territory for Conte, and hes not going to be able to help Beppe out much on this front and this is where Marrotta's expertise will probably have to come into play.

From the way he goes about closing deals or not, i don't know if he has the wherewithal to build a Champions League worthy team. I'm only too happy for Marrotta to prove me wrong but its not going to happen when you're constantly chopping and changing a team around because you're not sure on how to judge the calibre of players as an individual. Have you kept count of how many players have been bought since his arrival? 20 odd. That's not how a Champions league team will function. This is not because there are thousand better directors than him in Italy. Purely, judging him I don't think he was good enough to be here. And the reason I probably despise him as much as Secco and probably more is, because Secco never had any experience and would make idiotic transfers, but this guy has been around long enough to have made better transfers at a club like Juve. But he's never quite understood the meaning and requirements of a club like this coz he's too conditioned by all the time he functioned at Sampdoria. Too many mistakes in a short span of time. Anyway, apologies to everyone for making this a Marrotta discussion. Will stay on topic.

 

[baggio]

It seems you and I are in complete agreement with his illogical stances

No problem. Whatever it takes you not to feel left out of an adult discussion

 

[baggio]

My point is that no transfer director in italy is perfect. Galliani might be better than Marotta, but he has been in the game for much longer.

Nobody said that Marrotta had to be like Moggi or better than him. But with all the experience that he has, he should've given a better example of himself than he has for most part. Nobody inheriting a team that he did would disband it as soon as he tried to do. Especially given that he was coming to the biggest team in the land. He needed to understand the culture of the club a little better before spending its money. Evolution was what that team needed. Not revolution.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

No problem. Whatever it takes you not to feel left out of an adult discussion

very funny lol , although the discussion was veered of course I will say this final thought on it you can not have it both ways and at times you do by blaming marotta for the bad while assigning no blame to Del Neri and then praising the good on Conte while dismissing Marottas contribution. Now back on topic.....
Seeing as all the names have fallen through in the CM does anyone think that a candreva or pizzaro is still viable before tuesday or was january done yesterday with Caceres?

 

[baggio]

@AC: thats only because it was easy to see that DelNeri didn't have much say in the transfer market. Certainly not as much of a say as Conte does. That's perhaps where my feelings stem from on this issue.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

@AC: thats only because it was easy to see that DelNeri didn't have much say in the transfer market. Certainly not as much of a say as Conte does. That's perhaps where my feelings stem from on this issue.

this could def be a possibility

 

[PhRoZeN]

The question was, after a stunning mercato campaign, should we renew Marrotta? My answer was no. I stand by that. Its not really a question that will come up for debate in the current scenario as things stand, I'm well aware of that fact. I went on to explain my reasons why. I genuinely feel Marrotta is being made to look more adept at his job because results are in our favour and we have a coach who knows what he is doing.

In fact, it's ironic, I was really really happy when Marrotta was first appointed but very quickly realised the quality of the team he built in his first season. And even more ironic, was at the start of this campaign I was totally against Conte being appointed coach for the very reason that he had an amateur board behind him. While in discussion with Hustini before we got involved in our discussion, I went on to mention my biggest apprehension with Marrotta, leaving the last two years aside, is the time ahead.

Del Piero's retirement is going to leave a huge void in this team. It probably hasn't hit some of us, but I know the team will feel it even though they dint rely as much on him on the pitch. With perhaps a more than solid chance to qualify for Europe, I know this team is going to need that one game changer in our ranks. We are solely lacking that. And after two seasons, and spending close to what, 200 million we don't have one of those to show in our books? It could be argued that we didn't have Champions League, and we played in a shit, loser Serie A league but whats worrying is, that this is new territory for Conte, and hes not going to be able to help Beppe out much on this front and this is where Marrotta's expertise will probably have to come into play.

From the way he goes about closing deals or not, i don't know if he has the wherewithal to build a Champions League worthy team. I'm only too happy for Marrotta to prove me wrong but its not going to happen when you're constantly chopping and changing a team around because you're not sure on how to judge the calibre of players as an individual. Have you kept count of how many players have been bought since his arrival? 20 odd. That's not how a Champions league team will function. This is not because there are thousand better directors than him in Italy. Purely, judging him I don't think he was good enough to be here. And the reason I probably despise him as much as Secco and probably more is, because Secco never had any experience and would make idiotic transfers, but this guy has been around long enough to have made better transfers at a club like Juve. But he's never quite understood the meaning and requirements of a club like this coz he's too conditioned by all the time he functioned at Sampdoria. Too many mistakes in a short span of time. Anyway, apologies to everyone for making this a Marrotta discussion. Will stay on topic.

Im glad people save me from typing. I concur.

 

[KB824]

Am I to assume that Nainggolan won't be arriving

 

[adriano_c]

Hopefully not for 15m, at least.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Am I to assume that Nainggolan won't be arriving

not coming. possible june arrival

 

[Mark]

Pedullà on Sportitalia says the pieces of the puzzle are all there. Juve want Nainggolan, Cagliari are listening for winter mercato offer(June deal is confirmed by Nainggolan's agent), Behrami stays at viola, Cagliari are close to sign Soriano(midfielder) and there's also Parolo that could go there if they get Kasami.

Sportitalia also mentioning that Krasic is open to a Zenith move.

Toni close to Walter Zenga's club.

 

[Joe]

IN:Boriello, Caceres, Nainggolan
OUT: Amauri and Toni

If those come to fruition, good job Marotta!

 

[frzl]

so what´s your personal estimation of the nainggolan deal, mark? like %-wise?

 

[Mark]

so what´s your personal estimation of the nainggolan deal, mark? like %-wise?

I can't say. Depends of many factors. Pedullà said more than 50%

 

[frzl]

ok thanks.
and if he´s not joining us now he definately will in the summer, right? or do we just get some kind of option to negotiate first or something stupid like that ^^

 

[Mark]

They say we have a moral agreement in June. Whatever that means.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I give it 30% for jan 70% for june