Mauricio Isla (20 Viewers)

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
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juve only needs €5.5m to not write a loss for Isla and considering the money saved in wages Juve should be willing to accept less than that. and no way Udinese are expecting €9m for their half, they already got €9.5m from Isla, any positive amount is a bonus for them. Juve must get rid of this guy somehow, be it direct sale or blind auction.
what do you mean blind auction? we enter a blind auction with udinese and offer less than they offer??? :lol: that would be sooo :beppe:
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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juve only needs €5.5m to not write a loss for Isla and considering the money saved in wages Juve should be willing to accept less than that. and no way Udinese are expecting €9m for their half, they already got €9.5m from Isla, any positive amount is a bonus for them. Juve must get rid of this guy somehow, be it direct sale or blind auction.
Amen.

He is barely acceptable. We need quality if we wanna be really competitive.
 

Hydde

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Mar 6, 2003
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Isla 'lacked self-belief’

By Football Italia staff









Juventus’ Mauricio Isla admits he has lacked belief in himself at times this season ahead of his side’s match with Fiorentina.


The Chilean also said the Old Lady are extremely motivated to do well in the Europa League by the prospect of playing the final at home.


“You asked me the same question after the last time I played in the Europa League,” Isla said to the journalists gathered at the pre-match Press conference for the Europa League Last 16 tie.


“And that time I responded very sincerely that it what has happened in the last few months was my fault.


“I didn’t have the belief in myself that the club, my teammates and the Coach all had.



“That belief was missing but I have always spoken to the Coach about it.


“Playing for Juventus, the biggest club in Italy, is a source of great pride.


“The first year here for me has been difficult but now I want to prove my worth.
“I need to do at Juventus what I have always done with the national team and what I did in the last match.

“For us it would be fantastic to play the final at home, in front of our fans and win it.


“The match tomorrow will be a very hard one because Fiorentina are a great team, with players who can hurt you.
“But we just need to play our own game.

“When we play like Juve can, we can beat anyone.”

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This dude is insecure as fuck. Just saying
 

AOD4

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2004
3,861
what do you mean blind auction? we enter a blind auction with udinese and offer less than they offer??? :lol: that would be sooo :beppe:
We wont go into a blind auction with Udinese. We have excellent relation with them and I doubt Marotta would wanna jeopardize especially on taking players from them.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
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Isla 'lacked self-belief’

By Football Italia staff









Juventus’ Mauricio Isla admits he has lacked belief in himself at times this season ahead of his side’s match with Fiorentina.


The Chilean also said the Old Lady are extremely motivated to do well in the Europa League by the prospect of playing the final at home.


“You asked me the same question after the last time I played in the Europa League,” Isla said to the journalists gathered at the pre-match Press conference for the Europa League Last 16 tie.


“And that time I responded very sincerely that it what has happened in the last few months was my fault.


“I didn’t have the belief in myself that the club, my teammates and the Coach all had.



“That belief was missing but I have always spoken to the Coach about it.


“Playing for Juventus, the biggest club in Italy, is a source of great pride.


“The first year here for me has been difficult but now I want to prove my worth.
“I need to do at Juventus what I have always done with the national team and what I did in the last match.

“For us it would be fantastic to play the final at home, in front of our fans and win it.


“The match tomorrow will be a very hard one because Fiorentina are a great team, with players who can hurt you.
“But we just need to play our own game.

“When we play like Juve can, we can beat anyone.”

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This dude is insecure as fuck. Just saying

Why bro? That's pretty honest of him. Confidence is a huge issue players have to deal with when fighting for a spot on the team. It's always personal. So there's bound to be issues in belief.
 

Hydde

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Mar 6, 2003
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He has needed too much time to "get" that confidence back. Thats not the mark of a champion

Really, how much time he needs to prove his worth?. FFs he was super expensive!!!
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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If we pay the full fee he probably would be.

Some people are just not as mentally strong as others. It's important for sportsmen to be stronger than Isla has been so far. There have been talents who didn't even make the professional level.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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It was our mistake after all, and we need to fix it. IMO it doesnt matter who is to blame right now... what is of utmost importance is to decide the best way to make the money we paid wrth it..or to reduce the losses somehow.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
19,250
He has needed too much time to "get" that confidence back. Thats not the mark of a champion

Really, how much time he needs to prove his worth?. FFs he was super expensive!!!

Sure, but consider how things work under Conte. Players don't get a run of games or continuity if they aren't playing a certain way. Such a situation is not always conducive to giving a player confidence or bringing the best out of them. Remember what happened with Matri? Isla if anything has the excuse of coming from an injury and it's not easy hitting the ground running, coming off an injury while having to settle in a new and much more demanding environment. He's still a young player, and can develop temperamentally under the right guidance. I don't think we should question him being a champion or not because he came in at a higher price tag. (I'm not debating champion/non champion) Just saying that we can't blame a player who flops or doesn't live up to expectations because they were bought or are going to be bought at a higher price tag. Isla isn't completely responsible for his lack of success with us so far.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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I blame it all on him when talking about performances. The first months yeah, he was coming from an injury and thats something that requires time. But he has since recovered... since long long ago...and he has not been able to force himself into the starting 11. Thats a clear sign of being average. Unlike our midfield...there is pacically no competition for him apart from Lichteiner.... who is not a natural winger even. Isla is a dedicated winger, but his skills are a farcry of those of the wingers we need.

Conte has his issues when selecting players, we all know that. The Matri/Quag/Borrielo saga is a testament to that..... but again, isla should have showed much much more.

Also, there was a big fault in valuation of the player. We made a mistake in offering the amount of money we offered. We paid a lot for a player that was not wortht he money, and was even injured. And this has also maybe created too much expectation from him. He was pretty expensive to our usual standards, taking in account his full price.

I lost all hope on him, as i have never ever been impressed by his performances. For example, his last game against Trab has been his very best for us, and eve then...he looked shaky, indecisive and wasted like 2 clear chances of scoring..because he was hesitant to take the shots. He has self-steem isues. We dont need that.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
I blame it all on him when talking about performances. The first months yeah, he was coming from an injury and thats something that requires time. But he has since recovered... since long long ago...and he has not been able to force himself into the starting 11. Thats a clear sign of being average. Unlike our midfield...there is pacically no competition for him apart from Lichteiner.... who is not a natural winger even. Isla is a dedicated winger, but his skills are a farcry of those of the wingers we need.

Conte has his issues when selecting players, we all know that. The Matri/Quag/Borrielo saga is a testament to that..... but again, isla should have showed much much more.
I think the fact that he came off a big injury and at that time itself had to make a leap from a team like Udinese to Juve wouldn't have been easy. Imagine coming into an intimidating environment and still not being fit to actually play. It's not an easy situation to be in by any means. You're me toning Licht, but Licht himself has had no competition for that role, even withh Caceres around for so long. The fact is that Isla was bought to facilitate a smoother switch to the 352 from the more natural RB like Licht. But his injury hampered any chance of opportunity and continuity, by which time Licht was already Conte's preferred player. We've seen how stubborn Conte can be with his choices, so I don't know how we can say that it was entirely up to Isla to break in to the starting eleven and make that spot his. I'm not defending Isla the player in this case, only questioning his circumstances at the club. I also can't see how we can conclude that he's not a champion because of this time with Juve which hardly has seen him get any continuity. also, let's not forget, Conte vetoed a move to Inter for Isla, as he pushed for it - that may also be due Isla having shown him some value, or he would've been let go of IMO.

I'm convinced he will do well wherever else he goes, if he has some continuity and backing. Personally, i think its wrong to write a player off if he has a lean spell at a club when he has shown glimpses of solidity elsewhere. If we sell him, then maybe its coz it hasn't clicked for him under Conte's methods, but might click under someone else. Like Henry and Wenger, post his move from Juve.


Also, there was a big fault in valuation of the player. We made a mistake in offering the amount of money we offered. We paid a lot for a player that was not wortht he money, and was even injured. And this has also maybe created too much expectation from him. He was pretty expensive to our usual standards, taking in account his full price.

I lost all hope on him, as i have never ever been impressed by his performances. For example, his last game against Trab has been his very best for us, and eve then...he looked shaky, indecisive and wasted like 2 clear chances of scoring..because he was hesitant to take the shots. He has self-steem isues. We dont need that.
This is exactly what I'm saying. We cannot fault a player or expect more off him just because we have spent a lot of money on him, considering he was injured as well. He didn't set his valuation. It was poor judgment on our part, be it Marrotta's poor negotiation or Udinese's hyping of the player. The lack of results here, should not be blamed on the player squarely. We are maybe as much to blame if we paid or are going to pay so much money.

I can see your frustration towards the player and you're completely entitled to the same, but that said, I think his self esteem issues correlate with his playing time, and that can maybe be resolved if he gets enough minutes under his belt. This is a call only the club can be in a position to take as they see the player week in and week out, on days other than the match days we see.

I'm also pretty frustrated by Islas inability to build a reputation here, but I do think he has the talent and ability to be a player of value for us, despite what we have seen thus far. I'd give him another chance to grow at the club than get rid of him, if he's showing the coach signs of adapting. Again, the club will know this better than us I guess.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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I understand he needed time to bounce back from injury. But it's not like he was putting up average games and just lacking that extra quality, he was downright awful and costing us goals with big mistakes. You can't afford to give liabilities a huge run of games. Especially when the man who's ahead of him is one of the best Right backs around.
 

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