Matthijs de Ligt (39 Viewers)

[Hist]

I dont know. They both played at a lower level than I expected, didnt see any major developement for either one. They both have their things they excel in but none are the real deal to me. When I am talking about the real deal I mean defenders such as Cannavaro Nesta Thuram Montero Sammer Chielini. These are the real deal. Players who can really defend and make your defense look like its from another planet.

As for MDL and Bremer - I dont know who is the better one but eventually I`d like us to upgrade over him as well.

It doesn’t help that Bayern and Juve have both been very unstable during this time.

MDL has had two top $$$ transfers now, the expectation on him should be higher than Bremer.

 

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[Juvellino]

I dont know. They both played at a lower level than I expected, didnt see any major developement for either one. They both have their things they excel in but none are the real deal to me. When I am talking about the real deal I mean defenders such as Cannavaro Nesta Thuram Montero Sammer Chielini. These are the real deal. Players who can really defend and make your defense look like its from another planet.

As for MDL and Bremer - I dont know who is the better one but eventually I`d like us to upgrade over him as well.

It is hard for modern defenders to be at the level of those names. With VAR, the handball rule and everything being a penalty it is hard for defenders to get an edge. Teams attack more than ever and players are faster than ever. There will still be world class defenders but they will continue to be more and more rare.

 

[DAiDEViL]

As for MDL and Bremer - I dont know who is the better one but eventually I`d like us to upgrade over him as well.

For now, let's just focus on upgrading over Alex Sandro lol.

Personally, I'm perfectly happy with Bremer so far.

 

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At volleyball maybe.

 

[BayernFan]

@Orgut

 

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If I were a coach, I would

 

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Makes sense, as I recall he didn't much like defending and he won't be doing that from the bench.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Makes sense, as I recall he didn't much like defending and he won't be doing that from the bench.

He be like "Let Upamecano do it"

 

[swag]

Makes sense, as I recall he didn't much like defending and he won't be doing that from the bench.

He sees more of the ball that way

 

[DanielSz]

Ive posted it before but my stance has been no center back should ever go for what De ligt went for, the game has changed too much.

That said, Bremer over De Ligt any day.

 

[JuveJay]

Makes sense, as I recall he didn't much like defending and he won't be doing that from the bench.

It's only a matter of time before Bayern fulfill his dreams of being a midfielder.

 

[Lion]

Ive posted it before but my stance has been no center back should ever go for what De ligt went for, the game has changed too much.

That said, Bremer over De Ligt any day.

i'd pay that amount for prime nesta, ramos, maldini, van djik, cannavaro, chiellini, stam any day without hesitation if money wasn't as issue.

 

[BayernFan]

Ive posted it before but my stance has been no center back should ever go for what De ligt went for, the game has changed too much.

That said, Bremer over De Ligt any day.

That’s quite an L opinion, but each to their own.

 

[Juve92]

Let's not kid ourself. MDL is better than Bremer

 

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That’s quite an L opinion, but each to their own.

It really isn’t. Seeing as they both played in Serie A together and Bremer was Serie A defender of the year.

Not bashing De Ligt here, by the way. I can see reasons for preferring each.

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Let's not kid ourself. MDL is better than Bremer

Sure thing, cupcake. Lol

 

[BayernFan]

It really isn’t. Seeing as they both played in Serie A together and Bremer was Serie A defender of the year.

Not bashing De Ligt here, by the way. I can see reasons for preferring each.

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Sure thing, cupcake. Lol

De Ligt is definitely more suited for the style of football we play, hence I prefer him. To me he also has the higher ceiling without a doubt.

Not to say Bremer is bad, but I just think De Ligt has the package to become the complete defender. I don't see Bremer there.

 

[JuveJay]

Let's not kid ourself. MDL is better than Bremer

You got it.

 

[Post Ironic]

De Ligt is definitely more suited for the style of football we play, hence I prefer him. To me he also has the higher ceiling without a doubt.

Not to say Bremer is bad, but I just think De Ligt has the package to become the complete defender. I don't see Bremer there.

Nah. Bremer is a better defender at the defending part. Defensively it’s not close. But he’s nowhere near the ball-playing CB De Ligt is/can be. So perhaps as a complete package De Ligt can surpass him, but on defending alone I don’t think he will ever match Bremer.

 

[Hist]

Ive posted it before but my stance has been no center back should ever go for what De ligt went for, the game has changed too much.

That said, Bremer over De Ligt any day.

For that kind of money on a defender you’re looking for someone who’ll transform the defense now…. not in the distant future. The kind of impact Van Dijk had at Liverpool. Haaland impact not Hojlund

 

[BayernFan]

Nah. Bremer is a better defender at the defending part. Defensively it’s not close. But he’s nowhere near the ball-playing CB De Ligt is/can be. So perhaps as a complete package De Ligt can surpass him, but on defending alone I don’t think he will ever match Bremer.

Why was De Ligt then our best defender last year and had such a big impact on the team? He was selected for the Bundesliga team of the season as well. He had so many big performances against the likes of PSG, Dortmund etc.

I definitely see him having a higher ceiling than Bremer for what he showed in the last half of the previous season. I get that Juve fans might not like him for the way he left, but the guy is very talented, there’s no doubt about it. Even if we put our personal likes/dislikes aside we should be able to acknowledge that.

De Ligt and Kim Min Jae has the potential to form the best CB for much of this decade imo.