Matthijs de Ligt (60 Viewers)

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Why does every goal has to be on someone? De Ligt was shaky in understanding what his unit around him were doing. But I dont blame anyone for that 2nd goal, yeah high line, but it was also a perfect pass, counter and finish. Job well done by Atletico.
Considering almost every goal last season, regardless of collective blame, was put squarely on Bonucci’s shoulders by Tuz, strange question to ask. ;)
 

frick

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Apr 4, 2010
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Why does every goal has to be on someone? De Ligt was shaky in understanding what his unit around him were doing. But I dont blame anyone for that 2nd goal, yeah high line, but it was also a perfect pass, counter and finish. Job well done by Atletico.
Yes I agree, it was beautiful from Atletico.
 

duranfj

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Jul 30, 2015
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Considering almost every goal last season, regardless of collective blame, was put squarely on Bonucci’s shoulders by Tuz, strange question to ask. ;)
Bonucci himself have recognized last season was quite underwhelming for him... he played at the same level he showed with milan
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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I have to say something regarding this guy
I expect him to do some mistakes when the season starts but he will come up stronger when it matters.
He is not a perfect player and he isnt the best defender in the world right now so dont expect us to never concede..
Our pre-season had some mistakes made by MDL but I have to admit I would be surprised if he avoid making them at the age of 20 and just moving from Ajax to a huge club..
I still remember how we were frustrated by Bonucci and then he became a beast (until his move to Milan...)

As for Demiral - He is a different type of defender who should be implemented gradually..
I can definitely see a MDL Demiral partnership next season IF Chiellini retires..
 
Aug 21, 2010
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Matthijs de Ligt: Why the Dutch Colossus Should Not Have Joined Juventus

Matthijs de Ligt moved from his boyhood club Ajax to European giants Juventus in what was one of the summer's biggest transfers. The teenager was snapped up for a fee that could rise to over £75m off the back of a rather extraordinary season in the Dutch capital. Yet, his decision to join the Serie A champions could be the worst mistake he will make in his whole career.

For a moment, De Ligt had the world at his feet and the opportunity to become an all-time great. An opportunity he may just have squandered. When the young centre back shot to the top it was Barcelona who initially showed the most interest. A move to the Catalan giants looked like a match made in heaven, and the signing of Frenkie de Jong for just under £70m looked like the icing on the cake. With just two years separating De Ligt's Ajax debut and his Golden Boy victory there was hardly enough time to make comparisons of his style of play with already existing world class defenders. However, one name that repetitively came up was Gerard Pique.

The similarities between the Dutchman and Barcelona's captain seemed uncanny. De Ligt's mixture of pace, technical ability, aerial strength, and leadership was eerily reminiscent of one of the best central defenders of the past decade. Even De Ligt compared himself to the 2010 World Cup winner, while simultaneously proving why he wouldn't fit into the set-up at the Old Lady, when he told ELF Voetbal Magazine (via Sport English) that his playing style was 'a little like Pique'. He continued: "Ajax's style of play is similar to Barcelona's. High press, a high defensive line and a high level of ball possession. Chiellini, to give and example, is a great defender but Juve's way of playing is different to Ajax."

Had De Ligt chosen the La Liga champions, he not only could have rejoined former teammate De Jong, but he would also have had the opportunity of being mentored by the player who knows his game well in a system that would fit his development. The magnificent run that Ajax experienced as they reached the semi finals of the Champions League was a much needed breath of fresh air into the lungs of European football. At the heart of that run was the club's 19-year-old captain.

De Ligt proved he was on his way to becoming one of Europe's best as he led his side effortlessly past both Real Madrid and Juventus in the knockout stages of the competition, showing all the qualities of an experienced defender in their prime.Even without the interest attained from Ernesto Valverde's side during the run, the Dutch youngster would have had plenty of better options than the team he chose - one of those being Liverpool.

What team would have been a better fit than for a player who had just announced himself on the biggest stage than Liverpool, a club that knows exactly what Europe's premier competition is all about? Admittedly, Jurgen Klopp's side do have Virgil van Dijk, Joe Gomez and Joel Matip as options at the heart of their defence, but it would be naive to think that the Reds wouldn't have snapped up De Ligt if they had been given the opportunity. How brilliant would it have been to see the Dutch international centre back pairing come together in the Premier League?

Moreover, playing in the Premier League would develop the qualities of De Ligt ten-fold in comparison to Serie A. Week-in, week-out top defenders such as Van Dijk, Aymeric Laporte and Harry Maguire are tested against dynamic counter-attacks and world class forwards. In no other league would a bottom half club have a player like Wilfried Zaha turning defences inside out on a weekly basis.

The development that De Ligt would have made would have shone through in those big European nights for Liverpool. Van Dijk was able to step up time and again against some of the best forward lines from across Europe last season because he is constantly fine-tuning his game in the Premier League.

The likes of Leonardo Bonucci and Giorgio Chiellini are being found out more and more when they face fast, dynamic teams like Ajax last season. The pace of Serie A is so slow that there is no need to worry about attackers running between the lines, as it just doesn't happen!

Only time will tell but at just 20 years old, De Ligt still has a lot to learn and, to improve, he needs to be consistently facing the toughest opposition. To join a team that has just won its eighth consecutive top flight title will only slow his progression as a footballer.

It would be no surprise if Maurizio Sarri's side exited the Champions League earlier than expected once again this season, if their off the pace defence is unable to cope with a different style of play to what is seen in domestic Italian football. Although De Ligt is undoubtedly one of the hottest prospects in world football, a move to a club more suited to his style of play, or to a more competitive division, would have had a far greater impact on his career than the decision he made to move to Juventus.

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Mar 16, 2013
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I’m so tired of hearing about Van Dijk and Maguire. Those two bozos are the most overrated defenders I’ve ever seen.
Have you even seen Van Dijk play? He is by far the best central defender in the world right now. This is coming from someone who hates Liverpool and thinks most PL players are overhyped.
Agree about Maguire though, he is nothing special.