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Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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He's already got a verbal agreement with Perez to take over for Incelotti
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Under Maifredi, our record in Serie A was 34 games, which included 13 wins, 11 draws, 10 losses, and a goal difference of +13. We also reached the Cup Winner's Cup semis that season, only losing to Farcelona. That was the Golden Era of Serie A, so the competition was intense.

Ferrara only had 30 games with 15 wins for a 50% win ratio.

Zaccheroni was only on our bench for 21 games, so the sample size is way too small.

Del Neri's record was 38 games, 15 wins, 13 draws, and 10 losses, with a goal difference of +10.

Trapattoni's 2nd stint was comprised of 142 games, including 74 wins, 44 draws, and 24 losses for a goal difference of +112. In his 3 seasons back, we finished 2nd twice and won the UEFA Cup in 93. Serie A was ultra competitive back then, especially with the Dutch trio at Milan.

Under Ancelotti, we played 114 games, with more than half of them (63) wins, another 33 draws, and 18 losses for a 55.26% win percentage. We only missed out on the Serie A title in both seasons on the last day, missing out in 2000 and 2001 by 1 and 2 points respectively. Ancelotti was not a failure, but the standards were so high back then, so he got canned.

What do all these coaches have in common, Trap aside? They were all fired.

Perspective is imporant - if we look at Failegri's overall body of work, it undermines the work he accomplished/achieved here in his 1st stint. If we look at his first spell independently, it's clear he is a top 3 Juventus coach. If we only look at his 2nd tenure here, it's evident, objectively speaking, that he is one of the worst, if not the worst coach in JJ history.
I dont disagree that he should have been fired a while ago. However, I will pass judgment on him based on 8 years here and the number of trophies he has won in that period. Based on this, he is our 3rd most succesful coach. Btw those 3 you listed, Ferrara, Zach & Del Neri, were far worse even if you focus only on Al-legri's 2nd spell. Maifredi as well. Competition was intense but we had a far better team as well. That is based on % of wins and standings on the table. The only relevant metrics.
 
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Mokku

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2019
2,436
Our team is not that shite. First half of the season we were at the top, but after the Inter loss we never recovered. We went from a massive unbeaten run to not being able to win a game in weeks. It's like we flipped a switch and become total shite overnight. The players are the same, so it's down to Allegri to fix it. Forget the stats, just look at what we've become in terms of tactics, mentality, and style. Unforgivable.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
31,863
people here acting alllegri is great coach. this fraud rode the sucessful foundations that conte and marotta built.

if he did what conte did which is win back to back titles with juve after 5 seasons of no titles then that would be impressive. he just took the team conte built and continued the winninng machine that was already in place. he didnt add to it. didn't leave his own mark.. even he couldn't fuck it up in serie a and he really tried to as evidenced by his failure in cl
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
80,677
people here acting alllegri is great coach. this fraud rode the sucessful foundations that conte and marotta built.

if he did what conte did which is win back to back titles with juve after 5 seasons of no titles then that would be impressive. he just took the team conte built and continued the winninng machine that was already in place. he didnt add to it. didn't leave his own mark.. even he couldn't fuck it up in serie a and he really tried to as evidenced by his failure in cl
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
31,863
people here acting alllegri is great coach. this fraud rode the sucessful foundations that conte and marotta built.

if he did what conte did which is win back to back titles with juve after 5 seasons of no titles then that would be impressive. he just took the team conte built and continued the winninng machine that was already in place. he didnt add to it. didn't leave his own mark.. even he couldn't fuck it up in serie a and he really tried to as evidenced by his failure in cl
agreed
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
31,863

Brny44

Senior Member
Aug 24, 2020
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