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Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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aren't you one of the throaters who said salary doesn't matter when people here criticized him for lackluster performances. but now u bring up his salary.

yeah u def are one of the ones. imagine the hypocrisy.

the rest of your post means nothing. this is same guy who went out to benfica and macabi.
Arent you one of those people that wanted him back? ;) Its a pointless discussion. The amount of trophies he has won speak for themselves. Obviously at some point he was a great manager and sharing his experience with young aspiring coaches is commendable and it's silly to suggest they shouldnt look up to him. He is quite succesful, no matter what Canadian tire salesman thinks :D

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Both Conte & Motta would get very little credit if they ended up joining. Results would need to go our way immediately or the pressure would become unsustainable within weeks.

Max getting support is because of how he defended (& is still defending) the club, I think. Us against them & whatnot.
Often forgotten how he stood up for the club entire last season while others remained silent.

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Third most successful coach in our history? Facts, if we only look at his first coaching stint here.

Arguably the worst coach in our history? Also potential Facts, if we only judge his 2nd coaching stint here.
If you focus on the 2nd spell he still is far more succesful than Ferrara, Del Neri or some of the coaches way back like Maifredi, even Ancelotti. Trapp's 2nd shift was crappy as well. But overall, looking at 8 seasons he will be judged as one of our best managers.
 
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s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
28,470
The ultras are just hipsters who want to differentiate from the common fan
they are organized criminals who stole plenty of money from the common fans

then agnelli took away their old way of benefiting from ticket sales so they started to act against the club. now that allegri is basically out, and he also was the only one who - instead of our pussy management - somewhat protected the club in front of the media last season, they are siding with macs just to oppose the club. it's a long lasting war and won't end with allegri out

they aren't too different from some common fans though. too many common fans has been actively rooting against the team, they have zero right to criticize the otherwise despicable ultras. the state of this fanbase is quite similar to the state of the club, way too much shit wherever you look
 

Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
5,640
Mourinho is available. Once upon a time he was the best manager in the world. 95% of managers will never achieve what he has done. Going by pro-Allegri logic, we should snap him up immediately. Spurs and Roma teams were just very poor squads.
Imo Mourinho would be an improvement over Allegri. And also I dont want him anywhere near Juve lol, wouldnt take him as Juve B coach.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
39,326
If you focus on the 2nd spell he still is far more succesful than Ferrara, Del Neri or some of the coaches way back like Maifredi, even Ancelotti. Trapp's 2nd shift was crappy as well. But overall, looking at 8 seasons he will be judged as one of our best managers.
Under Maifredi, our record in Serie A was 34 games, which included 13 wins, 11 draws, 10 losses, and a goal difference of +13. We also reached the Cup Winner's Cup semis that season, only losing to Farcelona. That was the Golden Era of Serie A, so the competition was intense.

Ferrara only had 30 games with 15 wins for a 50% win ratio.

Zaccheroni was only on our bench for 21 games, so the sample size is way too small.

Del Neri's record was 38 games, 15 wins, 13 draws, and 10 losses, with a goal difference of +10.

Trapattoni's 2nd stint was comprised of 142 games, including 74 wins, 44 draws, and 24 losses for a goal difference of +112. In his 3 seasons back, we finished 2nd twice and won the UEFA Cup in 93. Serie A was ultra competitive back then, especially with the Dutch trio at Milan.

Under Ancelotti, we played 114 games, with more than half of them (63) wins, another 33 draws, and 18 losses for a 55.26% win percentage. We only missed out on the Serie A title in both seasons on the last day, missing out in 2000 and 2001 by 1 and 2 points respectively. Ancelotti was not a failure, but the standards were so high back then, so he got canned.

What do all these coaches have in common, Trap aside? They were all fired.

Perspective is imporant - if we look at Failegri's overall body of work, it undermines the work he accomplished/achieved here in his 1st stint. If we look at his first spell independently, it's clear he is a top 3 Juventus coach. If we only look at his 2nd tenure here, it's evident, objectively speaking, that he is one of the worst, if not the worst coach in JJ history.
 

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