How hard is to understand that all we say is that those players should be trained to be at least on par, if not better than Frosinone, Empoli, Hellas, Udinese....
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How hard is it to have a look at the table and realize that we are better than 18 out of the other 19 teams.
the difference between those you call throaters and someone like yourself is that the former take more of a balanced approach; we blame both Allegri and the players for some of our shit performances, whereas you think its all about Allegri and think that putting someone like De Zerbi or Motta will all of a sudden raise these players’ levels to something they’ve never shown before. This isn’t fifa or FM where a players level increases by 3/4 points every season.
Again, as mentioned for the millionth time Allegri needs to be gone by the end of the season, but lower your expectations with this group of players otherwise you’re going to be disappointed again.
the difference between those you call throaters and someone like yourself is that the former take more of a balanced approach; we blame both Allegri and the players for some of our shit performances, whereas you think its all about Allegri and think that putting someone like De Zerbi or Motta will all of a sudden raise these players’ levels to something they’ve never shown before. This isn’t fifa or FM where a players level increases by 3/4 points every season.
Again, as mentioned for the millionth time Allegri needs to be gone by the end of the season, but lower your expectations with this group of players otherwise you’re going to be disappointed again.
You have understood me wrong. I don't say with just changing the coach suddenly this group becomes serieA and CL favourites. I understand those players limitations.
My problem with allegri is that under him even the few good players we have are decreased in quality by played on wrong positions or not trained right. He sucked the life out of this team. His negative approach to the games, putting defender (Alex fucking Sandro) when chasing a game is what must be changed.
My problem with allegri is that under him even the few good players we have are decreased in quality by played on wrong positions or not trained right. He sucked the life out of this team. His negative approach to the games, putting defender (Alex fucking Sandro) when chasing a game is what must be changed.
Give me names. I know you are going to mention Chiesa but where do you distinguish beteeen Allegri playing him as a SS and Chiesa’s current abysmal form? Even as a SS he naturally drifts wide and occupies spaces of an winger (look up his heatmap if you don’t believe me). Yet he can’t beat a man and fails to convert chances. Is that Allegri’s fault?
If it is, why was it working at the beginning of the season?
Vlahovic is another one.Who was to blame for his bad form prior to December and who is to be praised for his form since then?
If it is, why was it working at the beginning of the season?
Vlahovic is another one.Who was to blame for his bad form prior to December and who is to be praised for his form since then?
I don't doubt that could be true at all for some people. But even so if that's the case...who cares?
This is just so inconsequential. We really have people leaving because someone in another country insulted or defended some asshole millionaire in some third country that neither will ever interact with? It just seems excessive over something so meaningless.
This is just so inconsequential. We really have people leaving because someone in another country insulted or defended some asshole millionaire in some third country that neither will ever interact with? It just seems excessive over something so meaningless.
Is LeverKausen players any better?
Why chose the Mottas of the world when the budget is 7 mil net?
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And can someone explain why we have 183 guests viewing this thread?
Is there something wrong with my mind?
I never wasted time to view other clubs forums
Why chose the Mottas of the world when the budget is 7 mil net?
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And can someone explain why we have 183 guests viewing this thread?
Is there something wrong with my mind?
I never wasted time to view other clubs forums
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Although we're on pace for 83, I think we'll probably finish around 75ish points on current form, so possibly not that different from 70 and 72 point finishes last and previous season.
Id take 85 points + visible balls from current squad as a very positive season, something to build on, of course 100 is unrealistic. Hell even 80 is ok if there's a coherent strategy and the team is actually getting somewhere instead of the eyesore weve been seeing for much of the past 3 seasons
Id take 85 points + visible balls from current squad as a very positive season, something to build on, of course 100 is unrealistic. Hell even 80 is ok if there's a coherent strategy and the team is actually getting somewhere instead of the eyesore weve been seeing for much of the past 3 seasons
Maybe, who knows. But even with a mediocre squad, there's nothing encouraging anyone can point to under this Allegri in terms of anything other than scrapping for esults here and there. There has been no improvement in how we play and now the results are out the window again. Moreover, the only player who has improved under this bozo is maybe Rabiot. So from a squad building perspective he's failed as well. There is no argument on the table to keep him, other than "our squad sucks" and "we made the CL".
If Max had put up ~90 pts this season, even with a second place finish, there would be a good argument that he was getting great results from what he’s working with (this year only of course), and allowing him to try to build off it next season and win scudetto + CL QFs. And we were at 52 pts after 21 matches which is a 94 pt pace for the season. But after watching this 5 match stretch where we played 4 of the bottom 6 teams in the entire league, 3 of those minnows played at home, and collected 5 of 15 pts, well that’s just a truly disastrous run of form, even more so given we have no midweek matches.
Having his team still be this mentally fragile even after such a long run without a loss, that 1 poor result from a red card against Empoli caused us to spiral into this disastrous period against cellar dwellers… that is on the coach, and he has to be sacked for it.
If Max had put up ~90 pts this season, even with a second place finish, there would be a good argument that he was getting great results from what he’s working with (this year only of course), and allowing him to try to build off it next season and win scudetto + CL QFs. And we were at 52 pts after 21 matches which is a 94 pt pace for the season. But after watching this 5 match stretch where we played 4 of the bottom 6 teams in the entire league, 3 of those minnows played at home, and collected 5 of 15 pts, well that’s just a truly disastrous run of form, even more so given we have no midweek matches.
Having his team still be this mentally fragile even after such a long run without a loss, that 1 poor result from a red card against Empoli caused us to spiral into this disastrous period against cellar dwellers… that is on the coach, and he has to be sacked for it.
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Its ridiculous tbh. When you consider most of us are adults, +30, 40 dudes.
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He and him only is mentaly fragile. Without Conte, who left him great winning team, he would have never won those titles.
And above all his mentality was shown in finals, two times got humiliated.
Barcelona and real madrid were not more superior than us than Man. City was last year when they face inter. We got humiliated, inter barely lost.
Is it so hard to admit he is done and never was really a legend, he wasnt good enougt even for Milan. Its hard not to hate thiy ugly face.
And above all his mentality was shown in finals, two times got humiliated.
Barcelona and real madrid were not more superior than us than Man. City was last year when they face inter. We got humiliated, inter barely lost.
Is it so hard to admit he is done and never was really a legend, he wasnt good enougt even for Milan. Its hard not to hate thiy ugly face.
Without Conte? You mean the guy who instilled a mentality where winners like Vidal, Pirlo, Buffon, Tevez, Chiellini, etc were too nervous against the likes of Copenhagen, Galatasaray, etc to perform and get out of group stage in Champion’s League?
And lol about the final against Barca being a humiliation. What a joke. Clearly didn’t watch that match.
Imagine being a Conte throater while bashing Allegri and people who enjoyed his first spell here.
And lol about the final against Barca being a humiliation. What a joke. Clearly didn’t watch that match.
Imagine being a Conte throater while bashing Allegri and people who enjoyed his first spell here.
Without Conte? You mean the guy who instilled a mentality where winners like Vidal, Pirlo, Buffon, Tevez, Chiellini, etc were too nervous against the likes of Copenhagen, Galatasaray, etc to perform and get out of group stage in Champion’s League?
And lol about the final against Barca being a humiliation. What a joke. Clearly didn’t watch that match.
Imagine being a Conte throater while bashing Allegri and people who enjoyed his first spell here.
And lol about the final against Barca being a humiliation. What a joke. Clearly didn’t watch that match.
Imagine being a Conte throater while bashing Allegri and people who enjoyed his first spell here.
He continued the streak of titles that Conte started, in Serie A
Goddamn that's some next level vomit inducing ass kissing. I think Patrizi might be Allegri himself. No way one could be this dumb.
Not to mention the same fucking discussions over and over again every day. This place is fucking dead. Dai was right. No point sticking around.
See y'all next season if this mofo is gone, if not I give up on Jj for good.
Not to mention the same fucking discussions over and over again every day. This place is fucking dead. Dai was right. No point sticking around.
See y'all next season if this mofo is gone, if not I give up on Jj for good.
Mehh. What a dramaqueenSomebody mentioned he'd be curious to see what another manager would do with this team. I'd be nervous we'd even qualify for CL if i'm being honest (Pirlo came close).
The most important thing isn't even if Allegri is staying or going. No coach turns this squad into a CL contenders. Or even scudetto material.
A lot has to happen for us to become great again. And it won't happen overnight. With, or without Allegri.
Marotta built a great team. Paratici took over, went all in, and left us broke, facing serie b threats. Now it's time for Giuntoli to start another era and build his team. If the team becomes good enough, we'll start winning again. With or without Allegri. Until then, it's Allegri's job to make the most of Gatti, McKennie, Weah, Kostic, Miretti and Iljing Jr etc.
This is our worst team since we came from serie B. I'd even argue that our serie B team was better than this.
The club desperately needs CL money and doesn't want to take a chance that might backfire and put us under. Allegri was a responsible decision by the club. Secure CL money, so we can start rebuilding this. This time, with hopefully a bit more vision behind it.
wait what happened? Somebody lost their shit because I like Allegri? Mehh. That's childish.
Somebody mentioned he'd be curious to see what another manager would do with this team. I'd be nervous we'd even qualify for CL if i'm being honest (Pirlo came close).
The most important thing isn't even if Allegri is staying or going. No coach turns this squad into a CL contenders. Or even scudetto material.
A lot has to happen for us to become great again. And it won't happen overnight. With, or without Allegri.
Marotta built a great team. Paratici took over, went all in, and left us broke, facing serie b threats. Now it's time for Giuntoli to start another era and build his team. If the team becomes good enough, we'll start winning again. With or without Allegri. Until then, it's Allegri's job to make the most of Gatti, McKennie, Weah, Kostic, Miretti and Iljing Jr etc.
This is our worst team since we came from serie B. I'd even argue that our serie B team was better than this.
The club desperately needs CL money and doesn't want to take a chance that might backfire and put us under. Allegri was a responsible decision by the club. Secure CL money, so we can start rebuilding this. This time, with hopefully a bit more vision behind it.
Mehh. That's childish.Somebody mentioned he'd be curious to see what another manager would do with this team. I'd be nervous we'd even qualify for CL if i'm being honest (Pirlo came close).
The most important thing isn't even if Allegri is staying or going. No coach turns this squad into a CL contenders. Or even scudetto material.
A lot has to happen for us to become great again. And it won't happen overnight. With, or without Allegri.
Marotta built a great team. Paratici took over, went all in, and left us broke, facing serie b threats. Now it's time for Giuntoli to start another era and build his team. If the team becomes good enough, we'll start winning again. With or without Allegri. Until then, it's Allegri's job to make the most of Gatti, McKennie, Weah, Kostic, Miretti and Iljing Jr etc.
This is our worst team since we came from serie B. I'd even argue that our serie B team was better than this.
The club desperately needs CL money and doesn't want to take a chance that might backfire and put us under. Allegri was a responsible decision by the club. Secure CL money, so we can start rebuilding this. This time, with hopefully a bit more vision behind it.
bcuz we qualified in 2021, 2022, and 2023 and did horribly in all editions lol and didn't exactly improve much in serie a