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s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,646
...But it shouldn't require blood sweat and tears to comfortably defeat a team of this caliber...
it does sometimes, even for teams with much larger quality and experience advantage. i listed a few examples, and there are plenty of these. football isn't like formula 1 where if you have the better car odds are much easily converted to actual results, or tennis where you'll rarely beat much higher rated players against odds

and again, we basically won the match multiple times. verona was never gonna score, and they took away 2 potential winners and a penalty. it was a match juve fully dominated.

i for one already gave up on the victory, i didn't see this team somehow managing an uggo tiny little goal. and i appreciate that we actually went for the win. i've seen enough of the "if you can't win, at least don't lose" attitude, it was a welcome change and a 100% deserved victory. that's all there to is.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,028
Some of these Serie A teams look like Serie C sides to me. They have zero quality and can barely put together any passes in the final third. Then you look to the stands and see the away support, a whopping 5 fans waiving blue and yellow flags. I thought Hellas was the “real” club from Verona with all the fans, unlike Chievo? Sure, we had goals ruled out yesterday, but it just seems like every match is a massive struggle for one reason or another, but typically because of our own doing. All of which occurs in a league with poor competition, shady mafia-like administrators, and a largely unwatchable product on the pitch.
 
Jan 22, 2016
2,188
I used to be his biggest critic but this time around he is doing a good job with what he has at his disposal.

This team is way weaker than anyone could imagine. Our star signing is out forever for doping and another midfielder is out due to the betting.

We don't have any wingers apart from half ready Chiesa and not a single Fullback.

Our bench is shit and there is not a single player that you can rely on coming in and change anything.

Overall he is doing a great job with this uninspiring squad.
 

singus

Senior Member
Sep 22, 2020
2,073
I used to be his biggest critic but this time around he is doing a good job with what he has at his disposal.

This team is way weaker than anyone could imagine. Our star signing is out forever for doping and another midfielder is out due to the betting.

We don't have any wingers apart from half ready Chiesa and not a single Fullback.

Our bench is shit and there is not a single player that you can rely on coming in and change anything.

Overall he is doing a great job with this uninspiring squad.
And for that reason, that he has completely annihilated our squad over time as our coach for 7 out of 9 seasons, he should be streeted immediately.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,616
The lesson learned is that Allegri can probably deliver top 4 with any squad that you give him. Doesnt matter if its De Ligt or Gatti, Vlahovic or Keane, Dybala or Milik, Chiesa or Kostic. Despite the clear difference in levels of individual talent, the difference in the end product under Allegriball is marginal at best.

Since we dont have the ambition to win the league while our books are in the red and the club is in the courts, we might as well avoid the Allegri contract penalty and replace our star players with cheaper ones. Then maybe in a year or two we try to build a winning team again with a new coach. Thats the current strategy imo.
 

singus

Senior Member
Sep 22, 2020
2,073
This post might be the dumbest thing I’ve read on Tuz. And considering some of the things I see here on a daily basis, that’s no small feat.
Institutional Allegri apologists coming out now I see. Its that month of the season.

Now that you are so opinionated, who has had more influence on our squad building, player selection, player development, results and thereby resources (last 2 seasons) than Allegri? The guy famous for not training attacking play, fitness and always prefers to play players out of position to shoehorn them into his odd formations. Letting go of wingers and then deciding to play a formation with wings, deploying defensive midfielders or attackers as wings. The lack of logic in the decisions is astonishing.

Ending up at our dead and lackluster squad of jabronis. Allegri has any responsibility being the consistent figure in 7 of our last 9 seasons, or was it a few seasons by Paratici, do we blame it all on Agnelli, Nedved or was it Marotta? Im not saying its 100% on Allegri. But he owes a significant share of the blame, that was my point. You and a few others believe he is a victim, we already know that.
 

PedroFlu

Senior Member
Sep 20, 2011
7,166
Decent floor raiser as he maximizes limited players, and horrid ceilling lower as he limits talented players?

I mean, maybe he's actually OK for a group of players like the current one.
 

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