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Clamarc

Senior Member
Sep 26, 2018
1,982
there is no grinta in this team exept chiesa and vlahovic
danilo just wears a tight tshirt and has couple tatoos. he is a crap RB anyway
Vlahovic isn't really grinta personified. Milik is much better example.
Chiesa hasn't been infected by Allegriball for long enough, we will see after he's back on the pitch.

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yeah, that's why millions of companies around the world use work retreats for team building purposes

it's not supposed to be a punishment, it's a punishment for those who aren't dedicated enough. i'm not sure about the effectiveness of a retreat, it might not change our season, but i'm positive that any player opposing it should fuck off
Ask yourself. If your boss not doing his job properly and being incompetent, do you still work your ass for him professionally and be dedicated person?
 

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s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,615
... Ask yourself. If your boss not doing his job properly and being incompetent, do you still work your ass for him professionally and be dedicated person?
you're trying to make it black or white.

players vs allegri.

it's both ffs. it's the 3rd coach who fails to bring the best out of this locker and many of you still keep repeating that some random flavor of the month coach like tuchel, italiano, klopp or spalletti (or even pirlo lol) would be needed. wake up, we have a meh squad with a despicable attitude.

again, it's BOTH THE PLAYERS AND THE COACHES. stop finding one single scapegoat before you're disappointed with our next coach, whoever it will be.
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,646
you're trying to make it black or white.

players vs allegri.

it's both ffs. it's the 3rd coach who fails to bring the best out of this locker and many of you still keep repeating that some random flavor of the month coach like tuchel, italiano, klopp or spalletti (or even pirlo lol) would be needed. wake up, we have a meh squad with a despicable attitude.

again, it's BOTH THE PLAYERS AND THE COACHES. stop finding one single scapegoat before you're disappointed with our next coach, whoever it will be.
Not even mentioning paratici random signings and contract renewals of certain players.

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Till Stubborn Agnelli is there our next coach will be Italiano.
 

Clamarc

Senior Member
Sep 26, 2018
1,982
you're trying to make it black or white.

players vs allegri.

it's both ffs. it's the 3rd coach who fails to bring the best out of this locker and many of you still keep repeating that some random flavor of the month coach like tuchel, italiano, klopp or spalletti (or even pirlo lol) would be needed. wake up, we have a meh squad with a despicable attitude.

again, it's BOTH THE PLAYERS AND THE COACHES. stop finding one single scapegoat before you're disappointed with our next coach, whoever it will be.
Meh squad or not, the club can't just replace the entire squad in one go. It takes a lot of time and money.
Then again some of them still performing well when they play outside Juve i.e national teams or players who get sold (Kulu, Benta, etc.)

Changing the coach is just the easier solution. We might get disappointed but we'll never know unless we try.
Keeping Allegri is clearly not going to solve anything
 

Mokku

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2019
2,716
These players are really good at international level. They all play in progressive, attacking, exciting teams with smart managers. 100% manager fault, 25% players but also the manager is responsible for training them 'tactics' and motivating them. Watch any or our players in their last international match and you'll see.

Watch us lose to Torino, Empoli, then Benfica - we'll register 3 or 4 shots all game. Benfica will be humbling because they're good in attack, that's going to be a 3 or 4-0 loss.

There's a massive difference between a team in bad form and a lost manager. Klopp is turning Liverpool around, they've lost the EPL but will challenge for everything else. We desperately need a new manager, the players are good.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,918

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
yeah, that's why millions of companies around the world use work retreats for team building purposes

it's not supposed to be a punishment, it's a punishment for those who aren't dedicated enough. i'm not sure about the effectiveness of a retreat, it might not change our season, but i'm positive that any player opposing it should fuck off
You are not getting it.

Ritiros are good when needed. Thats not the case right now.

We dont need a ritiro, we need to sack the coach Because the team is beyond ritiro tactics already
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,918
You are not getting it.

Ritiros are good when needed. Thats not the case right now.

We dont need a ritiro, we need to sack the coach Because the team is beyond ritiro tactics already
However if there are players objecting to the ritiro then we have a big problem and shows there are players who want to do things their way with 0 fucks given to the shirt or club
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,646
@romeoagresti:"It's necessary to form a real group. We have seen several apathetic players, who do not seem to be thrilled to wear the most important shirt in Italy and one of the most prestigious in the world.It is divided house between the coach and players.
 

singus

Senior Member
Sep 22, 2020
2,073
you're trying to make it black or white.

players vs allegri.

it's both ffs. it's the 3rd coach who fails to bring the best out of this locker and many of you still keep repeating that some random flavor of the month coach like tuchel, italiano, klopp or spalletti (or even pirlo lol) would be needed. wake up, we have a meh squad with a despicable attitude.

again, it's BOTH THE PLAYERS AND THE COACHES. stop finding one single scapegoat before you're disappointed with our next coach, whoever it will be.
This guy turns out to be the biggest throater of them all lol. Who would have known.
"this squad is meh, come on, its both players and coachES"... What a silly agenda. Somehow Allegris squads are always terrible. Even if he gets a new one every summer and he picks it himself.
 

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