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Akshen

Senior Member
Aug 27, 2010
10,633
hurr durr more space in EPL. EPL is farmers league. space mace.

meanwhile haifa 2-0 juventus
yeah, and just one thing - remind urself how did he look when played for us - exactly like current Vlahovic - no first touch, no speed, no movement, bad decisions, bad passes. Now look at him when he plays for Spurs - totally different player.
I wont even start with Bentancur, who is maybe not setting world apart but he looks really solid.
 

Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
5,859
@Strickland mentioned del piero who's an obvious juve legend. i dunno whether either of you (or any tuz members for that matter) read moggi's book when he talks about the negotiations before every del piero renewal. according to moggi adp was greedy as fuck, a pain in the ass to negotiate with and always wanted to milk the club. yes, he showed loyalty when it mattered the most, but that loyalty always had a price. he's still a legend and i'd never question it obviously.

allegri picked juve over real madrid. some say he's a coward and didn't want a challenge, some say he followed his heart, i'll let you decide

i can't blame people not letting money go. coaches rarely resign, fifa guidelines protect them too much. it makes sense, and you'd do the same. you'd even fucking marry a random british uggo chick for a passport lol and who am i to judge you, right?

agnelli terribly misjudged the situation, that's my take on it. i hope he or his successor learns from it for the sake of the club.
Money and greed is one thing. The other is the damage done by his actions which goes far beyond the economic impact of his contract alone. A bianconero wouldnt hurt the club this bad.
 

Clamarc

Senior Member
Sep 26, 2018
1,982
@Strickland mentioned del piero who's an obvious juve legend. i dunno whether either of you (or any tuz members for that matter) read moggi's book when he talks about the negotiations before every del piero renewal. according to moggi adp was greedy as fuck, a pain in the ass to negotiate with and always wanted to milk the club. yes, he showed loyalty when it mattered the most, but that loyalty always had a price. he's still a legend and i'd never question it obviously.

allegri picked juve over real madrid. some say he's a coward and didn't want a challenge, some say he followed his heart, i'll let you decide

i can't blame people not letting money go. coaches rarely resign, fifa guidelines protect them too much. it makes sense, and you'd do the same. you'd even fucking marry a random british uggo chick for a passport lol and who am i to judge you, right?

agnelli terribly misjudged the situation, that's my take on it. i hope he or his successor learns from it for the sake of the club.
You just can't compare ADP situation with Allegri smh. ADP was one of the best player in the world in his time, he deserved to be greedy as fuck cause he delivered with result on the pitch.

Allegri can't even lead his team to beat small clubs. He has no dignity and just leeching the club right now. Fans have every right to be pissed with him
 

Akshen

Senior Member
Aug 27, 2010
10,633
This is at least encouraging to some to some point:

#Juventus continues with #Allegri more for lack of alternatives (proposed #Pochettino and #Sousa by intermediaries) than total conviction. It weighs so much contract until 2025, even if the feeling with some senators of the team falters and improvements in terms of the game are nil


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Schira also says:
There are no particular termination clauses in Allegri's four-year contract. Indeed, when the rumor was around after Monza-Juventus, denials arrived from both sides (Entourage coach and club)
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
62,797
Why on earth has he not at least stuck with a formation for a couple of games in a row? Just constantly chopping and changing but at the same time not even trying anything new.

Mckennie right wing has never worked yet he continues with it, Bremer is the least of our problems yet he randomly plays Rugani there?
 

AOD4

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2004
3,861
This is at least encouraging to some to some point:

#Juventus continues with #Allegri more for lack of alternatives (proposed #Pochettino and #Sousa by intermediaries) than total conviction. It weighs so much contract until 2025, even if the feeling with some senators of the team falters and improvements in terms of the game are nil


- - - Updated - - -

Schira also says:
There are no particular termination clauses in Allegri's four-year contract. Indeed, when the rumor was around after Monza-Juventus, denials arrived from both sides (Entourage coach and club)
Always though we get links to Poch. Spurs move from Poch to Conte, Juve does the other way round from Conte to Poch.
 
Aug 12, 2015
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This is at least encouraging to some to some point:

#Juventus continues with #Allegri more for lack of alternatives (proposed #Pochettino and #Sousa by intermediaries) than total conviction. It weighs so much contract until 2025, even if the feeling with some senators of the team falters and improvements in terms of the game are nil


- - - Updated - - -

Schira also says:
There are no particular termination clauses in Allegri's four-year contract. Indeed, when the rumor was around after Monza-Juventus, denials arrived from both sides (Entourage coach and club)

lack of alternatives??? what I know ZZ is without job.....
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,028
Look man. If Allegri resigns this month, I'm all for granting him legendary status (at the end of the day it matters little what I think). However, if he continues to break every negative record in the book and we end up missing the CL, then I will find it very difficult to consider him a legend.

Look at Marotta - does he deserve to be in the rookie section? It's debatable.

Judging players is different to judging a coach, I suppose, but even then Barza, Marchisio and Del Piero never really outstayed their respective welcomes, and we were still winning, even when they were in the twilight of their careers.

Lippi's 2nd stint yielded two Serie A titles, and it was only in his last season here (2004) that we we failed to win, yet still comfortably finished in 3rd place.

Allegri has been garbage for almost 1.5 years now.
How can someone still be a legend if they're unwinding all the success we once had and setting us back for years with respect to investment and marketing objectives? Who knows how many years this disaster will set us back. The damage being done right now is insane and we can't even fire the guy because he makes too much and won't step down. He's as much of a legend to me as FIGC in 2007.
 

AOD4

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2004
3,861
Juventus have decided against sacking Massimiliano Allegri despite a poor start to the season and La Gazzetta Dello Sport highlights how Andrea Agnelli’s decision has not to do with the club’s finances only.


The Bianconeri lost 2-0 against Maccabi Haifa last night, undermining their chances to qualify for the Champions League Round of 16, a target that Max Allegri has always achieved during his coaching career.


President Andrea Agnelli confirmed his trust in the coach last night, saying that the Bianconeri would not sack him. So what’s behind the club’s decision?


We’ve already widely discussed how Allegri’s €7m-a-year contract plus add-ons does not make it easy for the Bianconeri to relieve the coach of his duties, mainly because the Tuscan tactician has still two and a half years left in his contract with the Serie A giants.


However, that’s not the only reason Allegri will remain in charge, according to Gazzetta.


First, there aren’t many coaches available in the middle of the season. Zidane and Thomas Tuchel are the most notable ones, but Juventus don’t want to make such a crucial choice for the future of the team in the middle of the campaign.




In other words, they don’t want to get a permanent replacement for Allegri just yet as they are aware that the next coach will have to guide Juventus through the next few seasons. If things get further out of control and their current boss is sacked before the end of the campaign, Juventus will more likely pick an interim boss (the article mentions Claudio Ranieri or Paulo Sousa), choosing a long-term replacement for Allegri in 2023.


Second, Allegri and Agnelli have a solid bond, the decision to recall the 55-year-old in 2021 was shared by the club president and his cousin John Elkann, the CEO of Exor, the holding company with a controlling stake in the Serie A giants. They are still convinced that Allegri can turn things around, so the Italian tactician won’t leave, at least for now.


Agnelli has been at the helm of Juventus for more than ten years and this is one of the lowest points reached during his tenure. During his first season as the club’s president in 2010-11, Agnelli didn’t sack Luigi Delneri despite a terrible season that saw the Old Lady end in seventh. The ex Sampdoria boss kept his job until the end of the season and was then replaced by Antonio Conte in the summer of 2011, beginning a new golden era for the club.


While insisting that Juventus would not sack their coach, Agnelli confirmed last night that the club would make their assessment at the end of the season.
 

Clamarc

Senior Member
Sep 26, 2018
1,982
Juventus have decided against sacking Massimiliano Allegri despite a poor start to the season and La Gazzetta Dello Sport highlights how Andrea Agnelli’s decision has not to do with the club’s finances only.


The Bianconeri lost 2-0 against Maccabi Haifa last night, undermining their chances to qualify for the Champions League Round of 16, a target that Max Allegri has always achieved during his coaching career.


President Andrea Agnelli confirmed his trust in the coach last night, saying that the Bianconeri would not sack him. So what’s behind the club’s decision?


We’ve already widely discussed how Allegri’s €7m-a-year contract plus add-ons does not make it easy for the Bianconeri to relieve the coach of his duties, mainly because the Tuscan tactician has still two and a half years left in his contract with the Serie A giants.


However, that’s not the only reason Allegri will remain in charge, according to Gazzetta.


First, there aren’t many coaches available in the middle of the season. Zidane and Thomas Tuchel are the most notable ones, but Juventus don’t want to make such a crucial choice for the future of the team in the middle of the campaign.




In other words, they don’t want to get a permanent replacement for Allegri just yet as they are aware that the next coach will have to guide Juventus through the next few seasons. If things get further out of control and their current boss is sacked before the end of the campaign, Juventus will more likely pick an interim boss (the article mentions Claudio Ranieri or Paulo Sousa), choosing a long-term replacement for Allegri in 2023.


Second, Allegri and Agnelli have a solid bond, the decision to recall the 55-year-old in 2021 was shared by the club president and his cousin John Elkann, the CEO of Exor, the holding company with a controlling stake in the Serie A giants. They are still convinced that Allegri can turn things around, so the Italian tactician won’t leave, at least for now.


Agnelli has been at the helm of Juventus for more than ten years and this is one of the lowest points reached during his tenure. During his first season as the club’s president in 2010-11, Agnelli didn’t sack Luigi Delneri despite a terrible season that saw the Old Lady end in seventh. The ex Sampdoria boss kept his job until the end of the season and was then replaced by Antonio Conte in the summer of 2011, beginning a new golden era for the club.


While insisting that Juventus would not sack their coach, Agnelli confirmed last night that the club would make their assessment at the end of the season.
Oh that makes sense. Agnelli wants another 7th place and then starts another golden era :lol3:
 

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