Massimiliano Allegri (266 Viewers)

[Orgut]

Its useless to talk about Allegri now. He will be here for the next season and then he will be fired or praised. Despite the fact I agree that he could have done much better at least in terms of performance if not more than that - it really doesnt matter.
Next year he will have the tools and then we will see if we should keep or fire him.

 

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[Vlad]

In all competitions Juventus have conceded more under Allegri and here we are comparing his stats to dud coaches. Just shows how awful he's been this season.

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Bruh we finished last season with 77 pts. With this point total, we'd have been well within scudetto range this year. Only difference is we dint have an Inter team running away with the league like last season.

We had a good 2-3 month spell last season too until that UCL game and we completely capitulated after that.

Same story this season. This team is a weak and fragile team from both physical and mental point of view. There hasn't been an ounce of improvement from last season.

Infact I struggle to think of a single player that has genuinely improved under Allegri this season.

Im not arguing whether we have shown any improvement to a last year. Its hard to compare since this time around at the start of the season we lost forward that guaranteed 25-30 goals in Serie A and our most dynamic and maybe our best player, Chiesa, got injured and missed majority of the season. I think people underestimate the impact of losing 2 best players in a team. My point is that up until that inter game even if we were decimated by injuries, we had a good run and looked well capable of putting up Scudetto challenge.

 

[Post Ironic]

Its useless to talk about Allegri now. He will be here for the next season and then he will be fired or praised. Despite the fact I agree that he could have done much better at least in terms of performance if not more than that - it really doesnt matter.
Next year he will have the tools and then we will see if we should keep or fire him.

 

[Vlad]

Its useless to talk about Allegri now. He will be here for the next season and then he will be fired or praised. Despite the fact I agree that he could have done much better at least in terms of performance if not more than that - it really doesnt matter.
Next year he will have the tools and then we will see if we should keep or fire him.

Next year though, with Di Maria and Pogba in, Chiesa returning, Id expect completely different style of play and results. My biggest concern about Allegri are injuries. I dont doubt the technical/tactical level as to me hes miles ahead of most of the managers out there. However, injuries or no injuries, he ll need to deliver next season.

 

[Brny44]

Its useless to talk about Allegri now. He will be here for the next season and then he will be fired or praised. Despite the fact I agree that he could have done much better at least in terms of performance if not more than that - it really doesnt matter.
Next year he will have the tools and then we will see if we should keep or fire him.

Yep, we will let him spend millions to build his juve with some good players which he will obviusly drain with his looser mentality and we will stuck with them for another two or three years. Than in 2025 we will start again our new process with andrea pirlo.

Fuc.. Future with allegri, bring us a true coach with grinta and some sense. Never forget why he left for the first time!

 

[Alen]

Worst season I have seen in my life for Juve, dead serious

It was indeed a bad season, and a terrible one performance-wise. But if you've seen the 2009-10 season, then I believe you're forgetting many things about it. We actually ended that Serie A season with a negative goal difference. We started it with so much joy and expectations due to Diego's and Felipe Melo's arrival, and everything after the summer mercato was a disaster. Seventh in the league with 55 pts and a negative GD, eliminated in the CL groups, just to be humiliated by Fulham in EL. Early elimination by Inter in Coppa. Poulsen and Sissoko doing miracles in midfield. Old Del Piero, Trez, Salihamidzic and Camoranesi were more often injured than available. Old Cannavaro and Grosso didn't give a fuck anymore. Amauri had the clapping hands season. Bunch of mediocre players were getting a lot of playing time. In many ways 2009-10 was similar to this year, but in just as many ways it was way worse.

P.S: On top of this, Inter won the treble.

 

[Hist]

Plain and obvious. Just as much as Allegri who's trolling the critics with his interviews. Lighting the fire in their asses.

Seems that the only people he can motivate these days are critics... eh?

 

[JCK]

Its useless to talk about Allegri now. He will be here for the next season and then he will be fired or praised. Despite the fact I agree that he could have done much better at least in terms of performance if not more than that - it really doesnt matter.
Next year he will have the tools and then we will see if we should keep or fire him.

Finally someone gets it.

 

[Hist]

In the 20 games preceding to the one vs Inter, we had 14 wins, 5 draws and 1 loss in Serie A. We were on a pace to finish the season with 80 pts. Its a big sample of games in which we have managed to obtain positive result consistently. Thats a scudetto challenging team.

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20 games, 14 wins, 5 draws and 1 loss before clash vs inter in which our players missed and open goal, hit crossbar, denied a stonewall penalty, etc... that some anti Allegrists labeled as our best game of the season. Yeah, its the same as playing 1 game in Serie a. Clown.

Yes conspiracy is why we didn't challenge


How many matches in this incredible scudetto challenging run were against big teams? Do we have to lose or draw these easy matches too on top of all the other shit results and performances before you open your eyes?

Talk about being a clown

 

[Robee]

Seems that the only people he can motivate these days are critics... eh?

No problem since these days the season is over.

 

[Vlad]

Yes conspiracy is why we didn't challenge


How many matches in this incredible scudetto challenging run were against big teams? Do we have to lose or draw these easy matches too on top of all the other shit results and performances before you open your eyes?

Talk about being a clown

Who mentioned conspiracy, u dweeb? U said a while back that u dont watch our matches, only highlights... So wtf do u know how we played? This team has always been result oriented, which for great deal of reasons we failed to achieve, Max certainly sharing part of culpability, but playing style comes 2nd here. This is not going to change.

 

[singus]

Im not arguing whether we have shown any improvement to a last year. Its hard to compare since this time around at the start of the season we lost forward that guaranteed 25-30 goals in Serie A and our most dynamic and maybe our best player, Chiesa, got injured and missed majority of the season. I think people underestimate the impact of losing 2 best players in a team. My point is that up until that inter game even if we were decimated by injuries, we had a good run and looked well capable of putting up Scudetto challenge.

No player guarantees anything, this season Ronaldo would have struggled to even get 25-30 decent chances from his teammates.

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Next year though, with Di Maria and Pogba in, Chiesa returning, Id expect completely different style of play and results. My biggest concern about Allegri are injuries. I dont doubt the technical/tactical level as to me hes miles ahead of most of the managers out there. However, injuries or no injuries, he ll need to deliver next season.

Based on what, from the last 4 years?
You cant even name anything concrete, other than he got some good results 6 years ago.

 

[Orgut]

Yep, we will let him spend millions to build his juve with some good players which he will obviusly drain with his looser mentality and we will stuck with them for another two or three years. Than in 2025 we will start again our new process with andrea pirlo.

Fuc.. Future with allegri, bring us a true coach with grinta and some sense. Never forget why he left for the first time!

Either he`ll fuck up or he`ll succeed but he will be here regardless for the new season

 

[zizinho]

Clowns still here huh? And it's not even Rus running the show

 

[Bjerknes]

Nah, if anything a real club would give him less benefit of the doubt and hold him to a higher standard because of the past success considering he was already removed once. If this was Bayern he would be gone. But they are a well ran club, we are not.

 

[juve123]

Nah, if anything a real club would give him less benefit of the doubt and hold him to a higher standard because of the past success considering he was already removed once. If this was Bayern he would be gone. But they are a well ran club, we are not.

So you have decided to take rus place.

 

[Stevie]

I'm suprised there are people still defending Allegri I'd like to hear why? What evidence is there to suggest that our terrible performances aren't his fault and that he will improve the team?

I'm not trying to be a dick I would genuinely just like some hope going into next season so if you can change my mind please do.

 

[duranfj]

It was indeed a bad season, and a terrible one performance-wise. But if you've seen the 2009-10 season, then I believe you're forgetting many things about it. We actually ended that Serie A season with a negative goal difference. We started it with so much joy and expectations due to Diego's and Felipe Melo's arrival, and everything after the summer mercato was a disaster. Seventh in the league with 55 pts and a negative GD, eliminated in the CL groups, just to be humiliated by Fulham in EL. Early elimination by Inter in Coppa. Poulsen and Sissoko doing miracles in midfield. Old Del Piero, Trez, Salihamidzic and Camoranesi were more often injured than available. Old Cannavaro and Grosso didn't give a fuck anymore. Amauri had the clapping hands season. Bunch of mediocre players were getting a lot of playing time. In many ways 2009-10 was similar to this year, but in just as many ways it was way worse.

P.S: On top of this, Inter won the treble.

I remember it but here is my reasons why it wasn't worst for me:
- Building a team after calciopoli
- There were old players that I love and admire
- Teams above us have stronger squads
- Main reason is that in some how you still could see that flame, that professionalism, that passion players show everytime they were our jersey. I always feel proud to say that players usually give their best and peak in Juve because of that spirit. I know some players were really bad and somes don't even try that season 09/10, but in general my perception was that we were still Juve, with bad players but Juve. Now we are Arsenal, Farca in the 90's, current MANU. We don't fight, I can tell ref and everyone in FIGC are reaching new levels of mediocrity just to be against us, but that should just give us more reasons to go out and fight against everything. We finally lost our soul 100% in this season so that's what I think it was the worst season ever for me.

 

[edgardavids2608]

I'm suprised there are people still defending Allegri I'd like to hear why? What evidence is there to suggest that our terrible performances aren't his fault and that he will improve the team?

I'm not trying to be a dick I would genuinely just like some hope going into next season so if you can change my mind please do.

Ill speak for me personally. I coach is only as good as the players he has and the style he wants and plays. We got away from a well built team with some really soft players. I havnt seen a season with the injuries like this one as well. He played half the season with no number 9 which he wants and the other half with no on to feed him. Yes I do think our midfield will look strong next season and that will lead us to control games a lot more and not have to sit back and stay compact so much just to stop the leaking goals.

People praise pirlo but we played at times with wide open defense and on top of that couldnt keep a clean sheat for over 20 game at the end of his season. Max came in and knew he had to rectify this and that means going defensive forst and then opening back up over time.

On top of all this stuff hes a proven coach and knows what it takes to get us there

 

[lgorTudor]

On top of all this stuff hes a proven coach and knows what it takes to get us there

Conte 'got us there' and made JJ a serial winner before Max took over and built on top of it. I am not quite sure that Max is capable of the 'Conte role' with motivation from the ground floor and building a functional team out of a dysfunctional one.

Regarding the other things you said, our roster is poor but it still underperformed heavily if you look at our results against midtable and small teams.

That being said I have no suggestions who to replace Max with so I'm leaning towards giving him a last chance with a team that has a midfield this time.