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maxi

Senior Member
Aug 31, 2006
3,766
Did you ever see me write at any time anything about transition year or the like?
Did you ever see me justify any of the results?

I thought so and I wasn't justifying in reply to your brigade companion, I simply told him that I was not happy with either result so I really don't know how and why you brought justification.

Now you can go cry that we have Allegri as manager some more and get angry, it's your health.
So if you can't justify these poor string of results then what is your reasoning for throating him so hard? You seem to relish so much in our shortcomings under this current dinosaur of a coach. It's an unhealthy obsession, and a bit cult-like if you ask me. You seem more vested in trolling anyone who criticises your lord and saviour than wanting what's best for this team.

The only other reason I see is if you consider this a transition season. But even that you denied. So what is it then?
 
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Powis

Senior Member
Dec 9, 2009
8,483
It depends if you are PRO allegri or not
I'm pro-Juventus, which means I always want them to do good. That includes supporting our coach. I don't understand why people wish bad things to the club they support just so they can prove a point of being right.

Club will let him build his squad in the next mercato and he deserves that. If after bringing reinforcements he will not get any better then Juve might sack him. But for now 1st thing we have to do is not to change our coach every season. Let's be patient and see.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
So if you can't justify these poor string of results then what is your reasoning for throating him so hard? You seem to relish so much in our shortcomings under this current dinosaur of a coach. It's an unhealthy obsession, and a bit cult-like if you ask me. You seem more vested in trolling anyone who criticises your lord and saviour than wanting what's best for this team.

The only other reason I see is if you consider this a transition season. But even that you denied. So what is it then?
Why are you so interested in my opinion? If you don't like what I type you can simply add me to the ignore list.

I don't engage in tactical discussion or anything related to that. I support Juventus, I watch only Juventus matches and it all ends there for me. I am here on an internet forum for the laughs, not to argue nor discuss. I like to share my joy with other Juve fans when we are winning and I am not interested in expressing my disappointments when it is not going our way.

Is the season wasted? Yes of course, it is a waste of a season but that's about it for my concern. And it's not the end of the world in my opinion.
Is the future bright? I am not in a position to answer that nor I have the energy to analyze it or predict it.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
Chiesa had 4 goals - 4 assists in 1204 minutes this year.

He had 15 goals - 11 assists in 3167 minutes last year.

His pace this year he would finish with 11 goals - 11 assists in 3167 minutes.

Hardly some staggering drop off :lol:

And that ignores that he also started slow under Pirlo and that pace picked up in the second half of season which it easily could have again this year when he would get to play with Vlahovic, as he got to play with Ronaldo last year.
And that was without Ronaldo, it's easier to accumulate assists with Ronaldo in the team. This season Chiesa had to take on a bigger role so it was tougher on him
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,646
Chiesa had 4 goals - 4 assists in 1204 minutes this year.

He had 15 goals - 11 assists in 3167 minutes last year.

His pace this year he would finish with 11 goals - 11 assists in 3167 minutes.

Hardly some staggering drop off :lol:

And that ignores that he also started slow under Pirlo and that pace picked up in the second half of season which it easily could have again this year when he would get to play with Vlahovic, as he got to play with Ronaldo last year.
also he picked up an injury during the euro final (that's why he was subbed off), missed the already short pre season and never truly got his season started.

explaining chiesa's numbers with tactical arguments lol, he was devastating when fit. i can't wait to have him back after the world cup
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,817
also he picked up an injury during the euro final (that's why he was subbed off), missed the already short pre season and never truly got his season started.

explaining chiesa's numbers with tactical arguments lol, he was devastating when fit. i can't wait to have him back after the world cup
Is he out for the whole year? Damn. That sucks.
 
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
I'm pro-Juventus, which means I always want them to do good. That includes supporting our coach. I don't understand why people wish bad things to the club they support just so they can prove a point of being right.

Club will let him build his squad in the next mercato and he deserves that. If after bringing reinforcements he will not get any better then Juve might sack him. But for now 1st thing we have to do is not to change our coach every season. Let's be patient and see.
Who wishes this club bad? Name that person.
 
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
People who wish the club loses so they can say ‘I told you so’
Nobody wishes this club loses, just another nonsense by Allegri's fanclub. The only wish that anti Allegri gang wants is that Juventus will start to play modern football and allegroid will understand on how to get the best out of his players. But instead all we see is a regression of the club, next season we are about to change 30-40% of the players and allegroid will have to start from scratch and it doesn't promise anything good to us with football like we play today.

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If he doesn't want to play possession, fine, then build a super counter attacking him but he can't do this either.
 
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campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,817
Nobody wishes this club loses, just another nonsense by Allegri's fanclub. The only wish that anti Allegri gang wants is that Juventus will start to play modern football and allegroid will understand on how to get the best out of his players. But instead all we see is a regression of the club, next season we are about to change 30-40% of the players and allegroid will have to start from scratch and it doesn't promise anything good to us with football like we play today.

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If he doesn't want to play possession, fine, then build a super counter attacking him but he can't do this either.
For some people it is like that. You can see how pissed they are when we win and happy when we lose.
 

rainhard

Senior Member
May 5, 2004
4,365
People who wish the club loses so they can say ‘I told you so’
I go for Bologna match betting Juventus to win and i think it will be easy walk in the park
But the result is very underwhelming, if that happened for someone who does not in love with Juventus, they will hate this club to their core

It is hard to bet for Juventus under Allegri, even if he win the club probably wont overcome the handicap
If you support club like Liverpool or Bayern you will get entertainment, money and title all in one , all happy
 
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campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,817
I go for Bologna match betting Juventus to win and i think it will be easy walk in the park
But the result is very underwhelming, if that happened for someone who does not in love with Juventus, they will hate this club to their core

It is hard to bet for Juventus under Allegri, even if he win the club probably wont overcome the handicap
If you support club like Liverpool or Bayern you will get entertainment, money and title all in one , all happy
Go support them then you plastic fuck.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,817
I wont, I love this club but I didnt in love with the manager
You are a plastic fuck put the manager above the club

ill wait for 20 more years if it must, when Allegri goes to other club you all Allegri suckers can follow him
You have me wrong. I supported Juve even when we had the likes of Ferrara, Sarri and Pirlo in charge.

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Singus and Jager are two that spring to mind. I’m sure there are others.
 

rainhard

Senior Member
May 5, 2004
4,365
You have me wrong. I supported Juve even when we had the likes of Ferrara, Sarri and Pirlo in charge.
I support them too I even follow Juve to Serie B, even I support the good side of Allegri. But that does not make me blind that he does not have his flaws too
The first reason I love Juventus is Ale, and I already watch Juventus and Serie A since 95. But the moment that make me clearly love Juventus when Ale scores that goal in Toyota cup against River Plate. I still remember I running in joy all over my house when he score that goal, since then only Juventus
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,029
I go for Bologna match betting Juventus to win and i think it will be easy walk in the park
But the result is very underwhelming, if that happened for someone who does not in love with Juventus, they will hate this club to their core

It is hard to bet for Juventus under Allegri, even if he win the club probably wont overcome the handicap
If you support club like Liverpool or Bayern you will get entertainment, money and title all in one , all happy
I guess to each his own but Id never place a bet on Juve. Its cheap, ruins experience, ruins the sport in the end whereas Id like to focus on an actual match at hand, not on silly bet or forum squabbles while we are at it (live match thread). In a lot of ways it goes against what sport is about, competition, battle of strength and witt.
 

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