Massimiliano Allegri (240 Viewers)
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Ooooh, I see. God, so silly of me. Of course that's the explanation: Pogba was never reliable in the first place! I completely forgot about that. I was just distracted by his 8 goals, 12 assists, and just general domination of any midfield we played against last year, but I TOTALLY see it now.
This is like Animal Farm, or 1984. Truths can just change based on convenience of current argument we're trying to sell. It's a fun world you live in! I have a feeling if you read enough posts, you'll eventually see someone making the claim that Chiellini was always overrated, and that Caceras was the star of our defensive line all along
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Also, the way you talk about our midfield gives the impression that we are just creating chances left, right, and center! You're describing our midfield situation like we constantly get 15-20 chances per game, but that our only problem is we're soft defensively and so we need someone like Kante to solidify our midfield and we're set!
We had TWO SHOTS ON GOAL against Lyon. Let that sink in. We scored with a penalty. But yea, sure, Allan will solve that and we'll win the Champions League with him next year.
(How deluded are you people?!?!?!? It's okay to admit that Pjanic is a massive downgrade to Pogba. It's fine, just say it - saying it won't make it your fault that we did this stupid thing.)
This is like Animal Farm, or 1984. Truths can just change based on convenience of current argument we're trying to sell. It's a fun world you live in! I have a feeling if you read enough posts, you'll eventually see someone making the claim that Chiellini was always overrated, and that Caceras was the star of our defensive line all along
. Also, the way you talk about our midfield gives the impression that we are just creating chances left, right, and center! You're describing our midfield situation like we constantly get 15-20 chances per game, but that our only problem is we're soft defensively and so we need someone like Kante to solidify our midfield and we're set!
We had TWO SHOTS ON GOAL against Lyon. Let that sink in. We scored with a penalty. But yea, sure, Allan will solve that and we'll win the Champions League with him next year.
(How deluded are you people?!?!?!? It's okay to admit that Pjanic is a massive downgrade to Pogba. It's fine, just say it - saying it won't make it your fault that we did this stupid thing.)
Him wearing the #10 shirt was the biggest travesty Juve has ever done, even more disgraceful then kicking out Ale.
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He makes decent points
Khedira has been poor, Pjanic occasionally has an assist here and there but game play wise he either fucks up or contributes nothing to our game. Needs to improve massively. We're playing as if we were two men down from the start with those two. Then there's Hernanes which plays decent general play wise but has numerous fuck ups. Basically is extremely funny to have on the pitch or cancer, depending on your point of view. Lemina is not what we hoped to be, at least in my opinion. He's better as B2B than as a regista (where he sucks), but still gives the ball away often or can do something stupid. He's also capable of okay performances. Sturaro is a hard worker, but also limited.
Marchisio is Godlike though.
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Forgot Asamoah, memories of him might have been wiped out due to how bad he was in his last performances. Currently injured, I think.
Marchisio is Godlike though.
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Forgot Asamoah, memories of him might have been wiped out due to how bad he was in his last performances. Currently injured, I think.
The hope would be that Pjanic will improve once Marchisio gets back to form... though that type of player would do best with a Vidal/Naingollan energy type player on the other side of the mid. Pjanic and Pogba were the two best mids in Serie A last year as far as offensive stats go, goals+assists+chances created. Pjanic had 10 goals-12 assists-2.5 key passes per game... Pogba had 8 goals-12 assists-1.9 key passes per game. Plus all those dribbles.
But in reality, Marchisio was more important for making our mid function and allowing Pogba to shine, and Naingollan was more important for making Roma's mid function and allowing Pjanic to shine.
ManU needs a Marchisio type, and we need a Naingollan type. Unfortunately.
Unless Pjanic can reinvent himself and add more drive and grinta to impose himself on games. Which I don't see happening more than a little bit. We need Vidal. That transfer and not bringing in the energy-type player to replace him was the biggest mistake. Unless Lemina can somehow massively improve as a B2B and take up that role.
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Pogba was and is unreliable. He was appallingly bad to start last season. And the same to start this season.
As Pjanic is extremely inconsistent too.
They each had the best form of their careers last season though. Hence the reason Pjanic had 10 goals-12 assists, Pogba 8 goals-12 assists. As well as Pjanic creating more chances than anyone in Serie A.
The hope would be that Pjanic will improve once Marchisio gets back to form... though that type of player would do best with a Vidal/Naingollan energy type player on the other side of the mid. Pjanic and Pogba were the two best mids in Serie A last year as far as offensive stats go, goals+assists+chances created. Pjanic had 10 goals-12 assists-2.5 key passes per game... Pogba had 8 goals-12 assists-1.9 key passes per game. Plus all those dribbles.
But in reality, Marchisio was more important for making our mid function and allowing Pogba to shine, and Naingollan was more important for making Roma's mid function and allowing Pjanic to shine.
ManU needs a Marchisio type, and we need a Naingollan type. Unfortunately.
Unless Pjanic can reinvent himself and add more drive and grinta to impose himself on games. Which I don't see happening more than a little bit. We need Vidal. That transfer and not bringing in the energy-type player to replace him was the biggest mistake. Unless Lemina can somehow massively improve as a B2B and take up that role.
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Pogba was and is unreliable. He was appallingly bad to start last season. And the same to start this season.
As Pjanic is extremely inconsistent too.
They each had the best form of their careers last season though. Hence the reason Pjanic had 10 goals-12 assists, Pogba 8 goals-12 assists. As well as Pjanic creating more chances than anyone in Serie A.
We will have to put all our eggs on pjaca.
The guy everytime was in...showed something good.
Pjanic is no CL quality right now. He was banging it last year in roma... but in this juve midfield he simply dissapears. I dont j¿know whats his problem really...because the excuse of not having a "vial" at his side is true to an extend... but a player of WC caliber should operate way more cnosistently than what he has shown. he has been a big let down and i dont know how he can really turn things around and start killing it on the CL. We are miles away of having a vidal replacement so Pjanic pretty much is done then.
About allegri, the big bang guy said it all. The guy has a mess in his head and is having A LOT of troubles managing this team
The guy everytime was in...showed something good.
Pjanic is no CL quality right now. He was banging it last year in roma... but in this juve midfield he simply dissapears. I dont j¿know whats his problem really...because the excuse of not having a "vial" at his side is true to an extend... but a player of WC caliber should operate way more cnosistently than what he has shown. he has been a big let down and i dont know how he can really turn things around and start killing it on the CL. We are miles away of having a vidal replacement so Pjanic pretty much is done then.
About allegri, the big bang guy said it all. The guy has a mess in his head and is having A LOT of troubles managing this team
