Massimiliano Allegri (348 Viewers)

[JCK]

allgeri's first year vs conte's first year?

everyone has the choice.
for me allegri's first year.

reason : it is more difficult to defend the title for the 4th than get it for the 1st time.
especially when you are not the coach who get three previous scudetto.
also lost barzagli.
also chielini, pirlo, vidal declined
and have unexperienced in serie like morata and coman.
also play in CL.

But Allegri hasn't won any title yet.

 

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[Maddy]

Besides the odd man out, no one would have ever claimed Allegri > Conte if Conte was still the coach of Juve.

I've been positively surprised by Allegri's management so far. But the fanboyism that creates a pro-Allegri and anti-Conte atmosphere is just pathetic.

 

[Maddy]

Besides the odd man out, no one would have ever claimed Allegri > Conte if Conte was still the coach of Juve.

I've been positively surprised by Allegri's management so far. But the fanboyism that creates a pro-Allegri and anti-Conte atmosphere is just pathetic.

 

[Zacheryah]

I think it has to do with the standard level of hate Allegri got when he arrived, and still gets from certain members, its the lack of objectivity that causes people who appreciate his work to overdo their opinion to balance out the illogical hate and negativity. I have that sometimes aswel, its not easy.

Conte was a monster here. Insane motivator, installs a winning mentality (in serie a), and a damn solid tactician (and i'm not referring to formations).

Allegri is doing pretty well in the aftermath, showed his qualities and working points.


thats an attempt at objectivity. However, if some are negative nancies from the first second, and extrapolate anything he might get wrong, and compare with conte all the fucking goddamn time....its a very quick and easy response to make a comparison aswel, in allegri's advantage



sad really. both have been great for us. we should stop measuring who of both has the biggest dick

Spoiler

I have, move the fuck on and support Allegri, respect Conte.

 

[Zacheryah]

I think it has to do with the standard level of hate Allegri got when he arrived, and still gets from certain members, its the lack of objectivity that causes people who appreciate his work to overdo their opinion to balance out the illogical hate and negativity. I have that sometimes aswel, its not easy.

Conte was a monster here. Insane motivator, installs a winning mentality (in serie a), and a damn solid tactician (and i'm not referring to formations).

Allegri is doing pretty well in the aftermath, showed his qualities and working points.


thats an attempt at objectivity. However, if some are negative nancies from the first second, and extrapolate anything he might get wrong, and compare with conte all the fucking goddamn time....its a very quick and easy response to make a comparison aswel, in allegri's advantage



sad really. both have been great for us. we should stop measuring who of both has the biggest dick

Spoiler

I have, move the fuck on and support Allegri, respect Conte.

 

[JuveID]

But Allegri hasn't won any title yet.

so in februari 2012 conte have any title?
in that time, he was crying about juve only had one penalty.
also in 2nd position behind milan.
had a good luck about muntari's goal.

 

[JuveID]

But Allegri hasn't won any title yet.

so in februari 2012 conte have any title?
in that time, he was crying about juve only had one penalty.
also in 2nd position behind milan.
had a good luck about muntari's goal.

 

[Xperd]

Besides the odd man out, no one would have ever claimed Allegri > Conte if Conte was still the coach of Juve.

I've been positively surprised by Allegri's management so far. But the fanboyism that creates a pro-Allegri and anti-Conte atmosphere is just pathetic.

 

[Xperd]

Besides the odd man out, no one would have ever claimed Allegri > Conte if Conte was still the coach of Juve.

I've been positively surprised by Allegri's management so far. But the fanboyism that creates a pro-Allegri and anti-Conte atmosphere is just pathetic.

 

[Nzoric]

I think it has to do with the standard level of hate Allegri got when he arrived, and still gets from certain members, its the lack of objectivity that causes people who appreciate his work to overdo their opinion to balance out the illogical hate and negativity. I have that sometimes aswel, its not easy.

Conte was a monster here. Insane motivator, installs a winning mentality (in serie a), and a damn solid tactician (and i'm not referring to formations).

Allegri is doing pretty well in the aftermath, showed his qualities and working points.


thats an attempt at objectivity. However, if some are negative nancies from the first second, and extrapolate anything he might get wrong, and compare with conte all the fucking goddamn time....its a very quick and easy response to make a comparison aswel, in allegri's advantage



sad really. both have been great for us. we should stop measuring who of both has the biggest dick

Spoiler

I have, move the fuck on and support Allegri, respect Conte.

One of your best posts.



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I've sort of started hating on Conte because of Badass. He does that to me.

 

[Nzoric]

I think it has to do with the standard level of hate Allegri got when he arrived, and still gets from certain members, its the lack of objectivity that causes people who appreciate his work to overdo their opinion to balance out the illogical hate and negativity. I have that sometimes aswel, its not easy.

Conte was a monster here. Insane motivator, installs a winning mentality (in serie a), and a damn solid tactician (and i'm not referring to formations).

Allegri is doing pretty well in the aftermath, showed his qualities and working points.


thats an attempt at objectivity. However, if some are negative nancies from the first second, and extrapolate anything he might get wrong, and compare with conte all the fucking goddamn time....its a very quick and easy response to make a comparison aswel, in allegri's advantage



sad really. both have been great for us. we should stop measuring who of both has the biggest dick

Spoiler

I have, move the fuck on and support Allegri, respect Conte.

One of your best posts.



- - - Updated - - -

I've sort of started hating on Conte because of Badass. He does that to me.

 

[Hust]

I blame @Dru for starting this back in September.

 

[Hust]

I blame @Dru for starting this back in September.

 

[Raz]

I think it has to do with the standard level of hate Allegri got when he arrived, and still gets from certain members, its the lack of objectivity that causes people who appreciate his work to overdo their opinion to balance out the illogical hate and negativity. I have that sometimes aswel, its not easy.

Conte was a monster here. Insane motivator, installs a winning mentality (in serie a), and a damn solid tactician (and i'm not referring to formations).

Allegri is doing pretty well in the aftermath, showed his qualities and working points.


thats an attempt at objectivity. However, if some are negative nancies from the first second, and extrapolate anything he might get wrong, and compare with conte all the fucking goddamn time....its a very quick and easy response to make a comparison aswel, in allegri's advantage



sad really. both have been great for us. we should stop measuring who of both has the biggest dick

Spoiler

I have, move the fuck on and support Allegri, respect Conte.

How long is your erect penis?

 

[Raz]

I think it has to do with the standard level of hate Allegri got when he arrived, and still gets from certain members, its the lack of objectivity that causes people who appreciate his work to overdo their opinion to balance out the illogical hate and negativity. I have that sometimes aswel, its not easy.

Conte was a monster here. Insane motivator, installs a winning mentality (in serie a), and a damn solid tactician (and i'm not referring to formations).

Allegri is doing pretty well in the aftermath, showed his qualities and working points.


thats an attempt at objectivity. However, if some are negative nancies from the first second, and extrapolate anything he might get wrong, and compare with conte all the fucking goddamn time....its a very quick and easy response to make a comparison aswel, in allegri's advantage



sad really. both have been great for us. we should stop measuring who of both has the biggest dick

Spoiler

I have, move the fuck on and support Allegri, respect Conte.

How long is your erect penis?

 

[Hust]

How long is your erect penis?

#Don'tDropTheSoap

 

[Hust]

How long is your erect penis?

#Don'tDropTheSoap

 

[JCK]

so in februari 2012 conte have any title?
in that time, he was crying about juve only had one penalty.
also in 2nd position behind milan.
had a good luck about muntari's goal.

Ok, let me take in another way, you compared Conte's first year to Allegri's first year. Allegri hasn't been Juve's manager for a year.

 

[JCK]

so in februari 2012 conte have any title?
in that time, he was crying about juve only had one penalty.
also in 2nd position behind milan.
had a good luck about muntari's goal.

Ok, let me take in another way, you compared Conte's first year to Allegri's first year. Allegri hasn't been Juve's manager for a year.

 

[Vlad]

I think its on par with Milan or Inter's squad yes. I'd say inter's current squad is actually better. They have a very good squad.


And no one on this forum thought we could finish first or second. We all hoped for a top 3 finish and considered that an achievement given the squad.

That's absurd. Current Inter's team is at least few levels bellow, and at most on par with Juve's team that finished 7th twice in a row. Now what you fail to notice is tremendous improvement in personnel that occured during single transfer window, basically the team that had Grygera and Grosso as starting fullbacks, Aquilani in the middle, Amauri in attack, managed to fix most of its issues by acquiring services of vastly superior players for those spots, consequently making Scudetto challenge realistic objective. That being said Conte did his part superbly, instilling the winning mentality and keeping the team motivated throughout the season.

Allegri definitely had the much superior squad. He didnt have to rejuvenate anyone or discover the hidden talent of any future stars. He also came off the back of a campaign where he already won the league and so his team was gelled and stable. He had a strong 1st 11 and some depth too. His team was good both in Europe and in Italy.

Conte had to work with freebies that nobody wanted and vidal in a team without confidence, and without any winning experience. There was no mega-spending no expectation by the fans nothing. We were already accustomed to failure and were hoping that we could get a sniff at CL football. Enter Conte and Pirlo starts suddenly playing at his best and the whole team goes on a full season undefeated. The very next season we retain the title and have a very impressive CL campaign. This is nothing short of a miracle. And if anyone here want to go back and check the opinions of the same members who are hating now 2-3 years ago on the forum he'd see how much their memory is damaged. If I wasnt lazy id have looked up the bookies' odds from back then of us finishing 3rd let alone us finishing 1st undefeated. The butthurt started in Galatasaray and was magnified when he left.

Let's see those two teams for an instance, Juve vs Milan in 2011/12:

Buffon
Licht-Barza-Bonucci-Chiello
Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio
Pepe-Matri-Vucinic

vs

Abbiati
Abate-Nesta-Silva-Antonini
Nocerino-Van Bommel-Seedorf (Urby)
Boateng
Robinho-Ibra


But let's not take into consideration that we signed Licht, who was one of the best FB's in Italy, that Vidal was coming off a great season in Germany, or that Vucinic was massive improvement in our attack and immediately commanded starting spot at DP's expense. Or Pirlo's still WC abilites. Yeah, if we disregard all those trifles then Conte definitely won Scudetto with mediocre team, apparently relegation-battlers according to you.