Massimiliano Allegri (223 Viewers)

[Patrizi]

What the f. man? We just won salernitana and frosinone, barely winning in serie A by results like 1:0, still being outplayed every 14 days and all we can afford is broken djalo for 4mill...I dont know what drug you use, but I would suck a d. For it.

I'd bet you'd want to.
We're at 46 points. You say we're barely winning?
I'd let you suck my dick for whatever you're having

 

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[campionesidd]

Jihadi Max is winning. On the pitch, and on Tuz.

 

[Brny44]

I'd bet you'd want to.
We're at 46 points. You say we're barely winning?
I'd let you suck my dick for whatever you're having

First you must have one... now I see what you and allegri have in common, you are both dickless. Playing safe, one defending on the pitch, the other defending him on the tuz

 

[Strickland]

Jihadi Max is winning. On the pitch, and on Tuz.

tbh I'm not quite sure how many are serious when they call him a great coach, I suspect at least 50% might be joking

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

tbh I'm not quite sure how many are serious when they call him a great coach, I suspect at least 50% might be joking

You think he isn’t a great coach?

 

[s4tch]

You think he isn’t a great coach?

he was one of the most vocal sarriboiz who just posted this:

Agreed on the part that Allegri is a cunt

 

[Strickland]

You think he isn’t a great coach?

Max 2.0? No, he isn't a great coach, past 2 seasons he wasnt even a mediocre coach.

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he was one of the most vocal sarriboiz who just posted this:

your mother was one of the most vocal sarriboiz

 

[Gigiventus]

Of course there are complaints here after winning 4-0.

46 points in the winter, 10-1 in the coppa so far, 16 games unbeaten, a very clearly united team, new stars breaking through like Yildiz, a fuller stadium. I feel sorry for Juve fans so bitter that they can't enjoy this team

 

[juve123]

Of course there are complaints here after winning 4-0.

46 points in the winter, 10-1 in the coppa so far, 16 games unbeaten, a very clearly united team, new stars breaking through like Yildiz, a fuller stadium. I feel sorry for Juve fans so bitter that they can't enjoy this team

It won't be tuz without the plastic fans.

 

[maxi]

Great coach. Who can sometimes outclass the best of them. I'd put my money on Max vs Guardiola on most days.

Doing a great job. This Juventus will become very strong in few years time.

I can smell another attempt at a CL final. At the end of his era. In a few years time. One we might lose, but... I'm all for ride

Dear God, you're worse than Vlad.

Just wait until we add Djaló, Emerson, Samardzic and Koopmeiners into the mix. I'm sure Giuntoli will acquire a very strong team in a given time. We can get even stronger than last time around. We'll be playing epic battles with Bayern, Real, and the others, in a very short time. That's what Allegri does.

Now I firmly believe you are trolling at this point. I'm sure even the most hard-core throaters round here are shying away from engaging in this level of stupidity.

Sarri won the scudetto, so he did fine in that regard, but failed miserably in CL for a team that still had Ronaldo in it. Going out to the 7th place Ligue 1 Lyon in Rof16 was a shambles. As was the nonsense he was spouting about being happy that it was Napoli who beat us in the Coppa final.

All the same, I was happy he coached the squad to the scudetto but also happy to see him go as his style and temperament didn’t suit Juve, and he has never seemed like a coach that can do well in multiple comps. He doesn’t rotate well (anywhere he’s been), regardless of squad size and doesn’t have much of an ability to switch things up with regards to tactics for different styles of opponents.

Just my opinion though. And it’s kinda irrelevant now, discussing Sarri in the Allegri thread. But Singus is gonna Dingus.

So Sarri won the scudetto, Allegri still hasn't. Sarri reached the Rof16, whereas Allegri got Maccabied in the group stages. You were happy to see Sarri go (despite winning the scudetto) as his style and temperament didn't suit Juve, but apparently Allegri's does. Sarri didn't have the ability to switch things up with regards to tactics, but the notoriously inflexible Allegri somehow does, even though everyone knows that's demonstrably not true.

What exactly has Allegri managed to do better then? You seem to be inadvertently making a good case as to why Allegri should be shitcanned, if this is how you justify the decision behind firing Sarri.

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Ppl are celebrating like we won the CL

How low have we fallen

Truly a sad state of affairs. From the off-pitch issues regarding a management that doesn't care about this club, to the naivety of this smooth-brained fanbase of Patrizis and Post Ironics; we are a shambles of a club at the moment.

 

[s4tch]

So Sarri won the scudetto, Allegri still hasn't. Sarri reached the Rof16, whereas Allegri got Maccabied in the group stages. You were happy to see Sarri go (despite winning the scudetto) as his style and temperament didn't suit Juve, but apparently Allegri's does. Sarri didn't have the ability to switch things up with regards to tactics, but the notoriously inflexible Allegri somehow does, even though everyone knows that's demonstrably not true.

are you even serious

this would not be some ignorant bullshit if you were 2 years old and thought that real life works like fifa. but even in computer games you can't play the same season with the same squad - let alone the same season with two, completely different squads. you completely ignore that coaches don't work in a vacuum and squads do matter

even sarri admitted that his scudetto winning team was in the last year of their cycle. and the team that came after his didn't have pjanic, ronaldo (he stayed for an other year but left when allegri returned), dybala became a hack thanks to sarri rushing him back early from injury, chiellini was semi retired from serious football, etc

let's suppose coaches aren't idiots for a second and they want to play the best team that's available. here are two derby d'italia teams from sarri's season and this season:

now tell me with a straight face that you'd expect the same result from both squads. for me the old squad was stronger at almost every position. i'd only replace berna with chiesa, matuidi with rabiot, and de ligt with bremer in general, but since it was a 4-man backline with maurice, de ligt fits that better.

 

[maxi]

are you even serious

this would not be some ignorant bullshit if you were 2 years old and thought that real life works like fifa. but even in computer games you can't play the same season with the same squad - let alone the same season with two, completely different squads. you completely ignore that coaches don't work in a vacuum and squads do matter

even sarri admitted that his scudetto winning team was in the last year of their cycle. and the team that came after his didn't have pjanic, ronaldo (he stayed for an other year but left when allegri returned), dybala became a hack thanks to sarri rushing him back early from injury, chiellini was semi retired from serious football, etc

let's suppose coaches aren't idiots for a second and they want to play the best team that's available. here are two derby d'italia teams from sarri's season and this season:

now tell me with a straight face that you'd expect the same result from both squads. for me the old squad was stronger at almost every position. i'd only replace berna with chiesa, matuidi with rabiot, and de ligt with bremer in general, but since it was a 4-man backline with maurice, de ligt fits that better.

Ah back to the good old vacuum argument. Speaking of vacuums and ignorant 2 year olds, it's ironic really, given how you view things like players through such superficial lenses. It's so easy for you to look at a squad on paper and to compare based on names, without considering other factors like the actual performances of the players. That entire midfield was on the downside of their careers - you even admitted this yourself at the time, as did everybody else. By Allegri's arrival we had brought in one of Europe's top percentile midfielders in progressive passes, on top of Chiesa, a goal-machine at the time Vlahovic, and a proven winner in Di Maria. Sure, its not exactly the same squad, and it wasnt 2015-esque perfect by any means. But for what it was worth, if Sarri could acheive what he did with the squad he had, I expect better than crashing out of Europe because we couldn't get past a team that nobody had ever heard of with the squad that came afterwards under Allegri. The squad quality: achievements ratio under Allegri is disproportionately worse than the squad quality: achievements ratio under Sarri. Its not even close. The change in squads doesn't justify how far we have fallen.

 

[Vlad]

^^Mental breakdown after a 4-0 win. Tuz

 

[juve123]

^^Mental breakdown after a 4-0 win. Tuz

Don't celebrate meaningless victories only if we beat man city, real madrid and Bayern Munich then only it will count as meaningful victory.

 

[Akshen]

are you even serious

this would not be some ignorant bullshit if you were 2 years old and thought that real life works like fifa. but even in computer games you can't play the same season with the same squad - let alone the same season with two, completely different squads. you completely ignore that coaches don't work in a vacuum and squads do matter

even sarri admitted that his scudetto winning team was in the last year of their cycle. and the team that came after his didn't have pjanic, ronaldo (he stayed for an other year but left when allegri returned), dybala became a hack thanks to sarri rushing him back early from injury, chiellini was semi retired from serious football, etc

let's suppose coaches aren't idiots for a second and they want to play the best team that's available. here are two derby d'italia teams from sarri's season and this season:

now tell me with a straight face that you'd expect the same result from both squads. for me the old squad was stronger at almost every position. i'd only replace berna with chiesa, matuidi with rabiot, and de ligt with bremer in general, but since it was a 4-man backline with maurice, de ligt fits that better.

i would expect the same result with both squads only if u would change Manager in the first squad to the same as for the second. Guaranteed 1:0.

 

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[Amer]

OMG what will happen here if we lose a game soon?

The clash will be epic.

You're stupid, no you are a throater, fuck your momma, oh no you didn't, jihadi footbal lover, magnanelli pulls the strings, allegri ruins kids while losing, we fight with bologna for 4th place, street him for fuck sake, no street your momma, no your momma is on the street, super league is the only solution, we need patience with these young players, allegri needs time, is Zidane still without work, history proved me right.

 

[Post Ironic]

Dear God, you're worse than Vlad.

Now I firmly believe you are trolling at this point. I'm sure even the most hard-core throaters round here are shying away from engaging in this level of stupidity.


So Sarri won the scudetto, Allegri still hasn't. Sarri reached the Rof16, whereas Allegri got Maccabied in the group stages. You were happy to see Sarri go (despite winning the scudetto) as his style and temperament didn't suit Juve, but apparently Allegri's does. Sarri didn't have the ability to switch things up with regards to tactics, but the notoriously inflexible Allegri somehow does, even though everyone knows that's demonstrably not true.

What exactly has Allegri managed to do better then? You seem to be inadvertently making a good case as to why Allegri should be shitcanned, if this is how you justify the decision behind firing Sarri.

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Truly a sad state of affairs. From the off-pitch issues regarding a management that doesn't care about this club, to the naivety of this smooth-brained fanbase of Patrizis and Post Ironics; we are a shambles of a club at the moment.

Look at this nootropics nitwit calling others smooth-brained

Notoriously inflexible Allegri? Wat? Again showing you haven’t paid any attention at all to the guy. His whole first 5 years here were all about tactical flexibility, drastic formation changes, and using players in novel and unique ways. But sure, notoriously inflexible, because he hasn’t done the same with the squad he has the past two years.

And yes, Sarri had a far better squad than anything Allegri has had in the last 2.5 seasons. Full of champions from our 9 scudetti run. Had the “best” young high line, possession CB in football purchased for him (who stagnated badly under him), had the greatest goalscorer of all time, and still barely eked out an 83 pt scudetto, got embarrassed in CL Rof16, and lost in Coppa.

With the current team we have, that would be an overachieving season. With the team we had then, that was underachieving. We no longer have the best squad in Serie A. That’s Inter. Obviously current Allegri has underachieved the past two seasons. Badly. Why Singus keeps bringing up Sarri is beyond me. He underachieved with the squad he had too, he was fired for it. Allegri should probably have been fired last season as well. He wasn’t, we’re stuck with him, and if he actually gets this team near 90 pts this season, that’s easily the max anyone could hope for when looking at the make-up of this squad. Then we can see how he does in Europe next season, hopefully with some reinforcement. My standards for Juve are Scudetto plus CL QFs, but that is not entirely just up to the coach. Management has to build a squad that is capable of that. With nextgen and the young players we have developing, along with a purchase or two this summer, I think we’ll be there. And if Allegri can’t get us there, I’ll want him fired.

 

[Patrizi]

Look at this nootropics nitwit calling others smooth-brained

@maxi is the funniest of them all

Never do I see so many words mean so little

 

[campionesidd]

The bigger the win, the madder Maxi gets. It’s hilarious really.