Massimiliano Allegri (178 Viewers)

[rainhard]

We need to balanced the players for Allegri need in order to success financially too

An under 23 will be very risky, we need at least a Locatelli, Zakaria profile for different position (LB, RB, CB, etc) . The more established one not older than 25 or 26, so we don't need to nurture them much and still can recoup something in 2-3 years

Game against Fiorentina is showing what point is Allegri best of. To win when opponent is dominating, playing a fast counter and use the spaces left behind when opponent attack.

I still have doubts this can work against big club in Europe like Bayern, City, Liverpool, Madrid, etc.

Obviously we need midfield oschestrator, an explosive left winger and overhaul +regeneration of our defensive line. I will go for new LB, new RB some can stay as backup but we need a new CB too

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[Juventino[RUS]]

Allegri woke up feeling dangerous today

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Regista Danilo, 0 minutes for Soule or Miretti, another pathetic 442 with no existent left wing, GOAT tactician. Thank fuck Perin has been insane and has saved Allegri's ass.

 

[Post Ironic]

Thank fuck for Perin saving us from Viola’s 0 big chances

 

[zizinho]

Thank fuck for Perin saving us from Viola’s 0 big chances

2-0 against the team with the best form in Serie A. 442, Perin, no left wing, Danirlo, xgoals

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Allegri woke up feeling dangerous today

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Regista Danilo, 0 minutes for Soule or Miretti, another pathetic 442 with no existent left wing, GOAT tactician. Thank fuck Perin has been insane and has saved Allegri's ass.

Seethe harder lmao

 

[Hist]

Allegri isn’t good enough to build a project successfully around? Yeah, cause we didn’t do just that with him after Conte

Made progress then regressed and was sacked so yes not good enough.

By the time he was sacked Klopp was winning the CL and Juve was no longer competing for it. And now again and again Liverpool will be competing on all fronts year over year in a sustainable way.

That's my standard and what Juve should aspire to. Ugly football and winning Serie A is not impressive as an end point. Acceptable as a step along the way to greater success and better football but not the height of success

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Seethe harder lmao

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Made progress then regressed and was sacked so yes not good enough.

By the time he was sacked Klopp was winning the CL and Juve was no longer competing for it. And now again and again Liverpool will be competing on all fronts year over year in a sustainable way.

That's my standard and what Juve should aspire to. Ugly football and winning Serie A is not impressive as an end point. Acceptable as a step along the way to greater success and better football but not the height of success

Dude was unable to use the full potential of Ronaldo, Dybala, Cancelo, Pjanic, Spinazzola, Cuadrado, Costa, Mandzukic, that team should have been playing much better but instead he has bottled 1st leg vs. Atletico 0-2, coppa italia vs. Atalanta 0-3, then Ronaldo's genius has saved his ass vs. Atletico 3-0 and then he has bottled 2 matches against Ajax despite having an early lead in both matches but his fanboys are still living in the past "6 ScuDeTtI 4 cOpPaS 2 fInAlS" "GiVe HiM a BeTtEr PlAyErS"
No shit Sherlock - give me prime Buffon, Nesta, Cannavaro, Ronaldo, Del Piero, Zidane and I will with something too.

 

[zizinho]

Made progress then regressed and was sacked so yes not good enough.

By the time he was sacked Klopp was winning the CL and Juve was no longer competing for it. And now again and again Liverpool will be competing on all fronts year over year in a sustainable way.

That's my standard and what Juve should aspire to. Ugly football and winning Serie A is not impressive as an end point. Acceptable as a step along the way to greater success and better football but not the height of success

Was Allegri selling and buying players?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Was Allegri selling and buying players?

oh, yes, its always the players and never Allegri, n-e-v-e-r. he is so brilliant, he does everything right but the players are low level, they can’t follow his genius plan.

 

[Post Ironic]

Was Allegri selling and buying players?

Apparently Allegri is the reason we had 3/11 of our 2014/15 starters just 2 years later. Dude talks about sustainable when Allegri had his team chopped and changed on a yearly basis by management lol, and still he managed 5 straight scudetti, 4 straight domestic doubles, two CL finals runs. But he was shit and we always played shitty football lol

Klopp finished 8th, 4th, and 4th in his first 3 years at Pool.

And these guys don’t think Allegri should get past his first year here for finishing 4th with a squad in shambles.

Apparently it was okay for Klopp to get time to build a team at Pool but Allegri should be sacked after year 1 of our new project, a year that upper management has consistently said is a transition year with qualifying for CL the main goal.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Apparently Allegri is the reason we had 3/11 of our 2014/15 starters just 2 years later. Dude talks about sustainable when Allegri had his team chopped and changed on a yearly basis by management lol

Klopp finished 8th, 4th, and 4th in his first 3 years at Pool.

And these guys don’t think Allegri should get past his first year here for finishing 4th with a squad in shambles.

Apparently it was okay for Klopp to get time to build a team at Pool but Allegri should be sacked after year 1 of our new project, a year that upper management has consistently said is a transition year with qualifying for CL the main goal.

What a dummy, he compares 10th placed Liverpool to the flagman of serie a that has won 9 scudetti in the row and that has a much better lineup than Klopp has had in his first years with Liverpool Nothing is gonna change - they are just deluded allegri's cultists. Just imagine their outcry if Juventus will sign Gagliardini, Barella, Sensi, Brozovic, Sanchez, D'ambrosio for Juventus but somehow Conte has managed to turn them into winners. And Allegri has managed his Juventus to play even worse than Pirlo who had 0 experience and no coaching staff before he was hired to coach Juve.

 

[Post Ironic]

Liverpool finished 6th the year before Klopp came.

 

[juve_juve_juve]

Was Allegri selling and buying players?

Speaking of which, who's buying players for Madrid, Bayern and PSG? These clubs seem to work in synergy between transfers and coaches... Why does this club seem unable to do so?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Liverpool finished 6th the year before Klopp came.

They were 10th when he was appointed.

 

[Post Ironic]

Seethe harder lmao

Imagine being this angry about the team you purportedly cheer for cruising to an easy win in a match against a team that absolutely hates us to progress to the final. Mind blowing.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

https://football-italia.net/allegri-staying-at-juventus-for-another-three-years-bring-on-inter/
“We should congratulate the lads, as reaching the Final against Inter was an objective for the season. It had been a tough few days after the draw with Bologna, when we failed to make the most of many chances.
“We should’ve scored a second goal earlier, as we misplaced the passes on the counter-attack.”
“Now we must prepare for the next game in Serie A and try to recover some players. At one stage, I turned and asked someone to get warmed up, I’d forgotten he was injured and only realised when I saw he was dressed in normal clothes.
“I could not ask for more from these lads, as for the last four months it’s been practically the same players all the time, they’re throwing their hearts out there. We did well defensively this evening, which had gone awry lately.”

 

[zizinho]

Speaking of which, who's buying players for Madrid, Bayern and PSG? These clubs seem to work in synergy between transfers and coaches... Why does this club seem unable to do so?

I would assume Leonardo, Salihamidzic and whoever is responsible for Real, no idea. But have you seen these clubs go to a final, then lose half the team, then make another final, then get gradualy worse. And when i say worse i mean "on paper", the players that were brought in over time were either worse and/or old, with not many years left in them, so they needed replacing soon as well (by worse players again)
Buffon (37) > Szczesny
Licht (31) > D. Alves 1yr > De Sciglio > Cancelo 1yr > Danilo/Cuads
Evra (34) > Alex Sandro ..... still, but hes been getting worse each year
Chiellini (31) and Bonucci (28) > Benatia 1yr > De Ligt + BC
Pirlo (34) > Marchisio > Pjanic > Arthur > Locatelli
Vidal (28) > Khedira > Can > Rabiot
Pogba (22) > Matuidi > McKennie > Zakaria
Tevez (31) > Dybala > Chiesa
Morata (23) > Mandzukic > Higuain > Ronaldo > Morata > Vlahovic

These are only "starters", there is more. Where have we gotten better exactly?

Plus some wingers that mostly failed, D. Costa, Bernardeschi, Kulusevski. We just didnt do a good job at rebuilding. We kept selling young players with their prime about to come, and we kept sticking to older guys until they become overpaid and no one wanted them. This wasnt on Allegri though so i dont know how he can be blamed for the clubs decline. If anything, he kept delivering results despite these changes which more often than not were for the worse

 

[rainhard]

I would assume Leonardo, Salihamidzic and whoever is responsible for Real, no idea. But have you seen these clubs go to a final, then lose half the team, then make another final, then get gradualy worse. And when i say worse i mean "on paper", the players that were brought in over time were either worse and/or old, with not many years left in them, so they needed replacing soon as well (by worse players again)
Buffon (37) > Szczesny
Licht (31) > D. Alves 1yr > De Sciglio > Cancelo 1yr > Danilo/Cuads
Evra (34) > Alex Sandro ..... still, but hes been getting worse each year
Chiellini (31) and Bonucci (28) > Benatia 1yr > De Ligt + BC
Pirlo (34) > Marchisio > Pjanic > Arthur > Locatelli
Vidal (28) > Khedira > Can > Rabiot
Pogba (22) > Matuidi > McKennie > Zakaria
Tevez (31) > Dybala > Chiesa
Morata (23) > Mandzukic > Higuain > Ronaldo > Morata > Vlahovic

These are only "starters", there is more. Where have we gotten better exactly?

Plus some wingers that mostly failed, D. Costa, Bernardeschi, Kulusevski. We just didnt do a good job at rebuilding. We kept selling young players with their prime about to come, and we kept sticking to older guys until they become overpaid and no one wanted them. This wasnt on Allegri though so i dont know how he can be blamed for the clubs decline. If anything, he kept delivering results despite these changes which more often than not were for the worse

It is actually on Allegri, as he can't maximize those youngsters and relied on those experienced players

So that is the downside on his approach, you need world class ready youngster to slot in smoothly to use. Someone like Haaland, Mbappe level or at least at Locatelli level readiness

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[juve_juve_juve]

I would assume Leonardo, Salihamidzic and whoever is responsible for Real, no idea. But have you seen these clubs go to a final, then lose half the team, then make another final, then get gradualy worse. And when i say worse i mean "on paper", the players that were brought in over time were either worse and/or old, with not many years left in them, so they needed replacing soon as well (by worse players again)
Buffon (37) > Szczesny
Licht (31) > D. Alves 1yr > De Sciglio > Cancelo 1yr > Danilo/Cuads
Evra (34) > Alex Sandro ..... still, but hes been getting worse each year
Chiellini (31) and Bonucci (28) > Benatia 1yr > De Ligt + BC
Pirlo (34) > Marchisio > Pjanic > Arthur > Locatelli
Vidal (28) > Khedira > Can > Rabiot
Pogba (22) > Matuidi > McKennie > Zakaria
Tevez (31) > Dybala > Chiesa
Morata (23) > Mandzukic > Higuain > Ronaldo > Morata > Vlahovic

These are only "starters", there is more. Where have we gotten better exactly?

Plus some wingers that mostly failed, D. Costa, Bernardeschi, Kulusevski. We just didnt do a good job at rebuilding. We kept selling young players with their prime about to come, and we kept sticking to older guys until they become overpaid and no one wanted them. This wasnt on Allegri though so i dont know how he can be blamed for the clubs decline. If anything, he kept delivering results despite these changes which more often than not were for the worse

why are you asking me? my question "answered" your question first, the transfer management in juventus is not working properly, why?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]