out now?


  • Total voters
    166
  • Poll closed .

Vialli_92

Senior Member
Mar 7, 2013
6,500
agree with that....

but I expect This Juve to approach this kind of game like we are 1-0 down from begiennig and play aggressivly...

we are capable of doing that easilly.
I dont think any of us know what to expect with our new coach Allegri. We have to wait and see how he wants the team to play. I was not very impressed with him at Milan though so lets see how it goes.
 

Buy on AliExpress.com

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
We played organised, but the first 3 games in the Cl this year, we had defensive blunders and forwards missing to much chances
I think one of the problems was Conte had a tendency to consider every single game of the season and the CL as the most important game of the year. This was alright his first season, and possibly even the second, as we were not favourites, or not as much as in the third season, and we didn't have the firepower up front... But last season, you could clearly see this approach was burning out our players. The pressure and intensity was too high to maintain that level constantly, and we saw it in the CL with our forwards missing an epic number of chances in those first three matches. I mean we outshot Gala like 26-7 or something, with something like 15 attempts from inside the box, and then Copenhagen was at like 27-9, with like 18 in the box. Our forwards and mids missed so many good chances.

Conte seemed to pile too much pressure on even against the lowliest of squads, and then we came to those big UCL matches our players just cracked and could not finish. It was rather constant in Europe for 2 years, with occasional matches where we broke loose, but for the most part we could not finish.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
We played organised, but the first 3 games in the Cl this year, we had defensive blunders and forwards missing to much chances
I think one of the problems was Conte had a tendency to consider every single game of the season and the CL as the most important game of the year. This was alright his first season, and possibly even the second, as we were not favourites, or not as much as in the third season, and we didn't have the firepower up front... But last season, you could clearly see this approach was burning out our players. The pressure and intensity was too high to maintain that level constantly, and we saw it in the CL with our forwards missing an epic number of chances in those first three matches. I mean we outshot Gala like 26-7 or something, with something like 15 attempts from inside the box, and then Copenhagen was at like 27-9, with like 18 in the box. Our forwards and mids missed so many good chances.

Conte seemed to pile too much pressure on even against the lowliest of squads, and then we came to those big UCL matches our players just cracked and could not finish. It was rather constant in Europe for 2 years, with occasional matches where we broke loose, but for the most part we could not finish.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Our system was also not the best for this kind of games.
Our 352 was good when the games were tied or we winning. But when trailing, or forced to impose an offensive approach, when lacked a lot. And when we were trailing and in the 2nd half, it was almost a lost cause. Tired legs, nerviosism and lack of ideas were rampant. Our 352 turned in the infamous 532 and long balls galore. Naturally our wingers were drained enought to simply not risk it offensively and just stay on position.

I dont want any mre of that. We need a formation or a gameplan that keep the compactness our team already has, but that let us create chances more naturally intead of basing our games in moment of magic from soemone or by pure brute force. Sometimes you need efficiency when attackiing, and to do that we also need players of high technical play. Im hoping that in this regard, new guys like Coman come into play. I know is too early to say, but u get the idea.

More than to be reliant on someone, we need to change our mentality above everything else, and our gameplan.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Our system was also not the best for this kind of games.
Our 352 was good when the games were tied or we winning. But when trailing, or forced to impose an offensive approach, when lacked a lot. And when we were trailing and in the 2nd half, it was almost a lost cause. Tired legs, nerviosism and lack of ideas were rampant. Our 352 turned in the infamous 532 and long balls galore. Naturally our wingers were drained enought to simply not risk it offensively and just stay on position.

I dont want any mre of that. We need a formation or a gameplan that keep the compactness our team already has, but that let us create chances more naturally intead of basing our games in moment of magic from soemone or by pure brute force. Sometimes you need efficiency when attackiing, and to do that we also need players of high technical play. Im hoping that in this regard, new guys like Coman come into play. I know is too early to say, but u get the idea.

More than to be reliant on someone, we need to change our mentality above everything else, and our gameplan.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
Say 2nd place in Serie A and Semis in CL losing to a superior yet showing we had strength to go through to the final. Ok, we would have no title and only a 3rd/4th place under our belt but looking at the bigger picture wouldn't that make us a more respectable force just by reaching the level of the 4 best European teams in the world?

At this point what's more interesting for Juventus? A CL semis and/or Final or another Serie A title?
I'd willingly sacrifice a Serie A title if it meant reaching the CL semis, as long as we are guaranteed 2'nd place in the league tho :D

However, by our lofty standards, a season without a title would constitute a failure of sorts.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
Say 2nd place in Serie A and Semis in CL losing to a superior yet showing we had strength to go through to the final. Ok, we would have no title and only a 3rd/4th place under our belt but looking at the bigger picture wouldn't that make us a more respectable force just by reaching the level of the 4 best European teams in the world?

At this point what's more interesting for Juventus? A CL semis and/or Final or another Serie A title?
I'd willingly sacrifice a Serie A title if it meant reaching the CL semis, as long as we are guaranteed 2'nd place in the league tho :D

However, by our lofty standards, a season without a title would constitute a failure of sorts.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,286
No I won't sacrifice Serie A title to CL semis,no way.Especcially when other teams(Madrid,Barca,Chelsea,Bayern ) are spending hundreds of millions of euros for players.So semis with title ,yes ,without ,no.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,286
No I won't sacrifice Serie A title to CL semis,no way.Especcially when other teams(Madrid,Barca,Chelsea,Bayern ) are spending hundreds of millions of euros for players.So semis with title ,yes ,without ,no.
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 194)