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AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,099
Pretty much everone would be better solution...
Allegri is among the worst possible choices a team of our class, with three consecutive titles in Italy could get...
Our class? Can we be realistic for one second. We were the best team amongst a bunch of sub par serie A clubs. We couldn't hold our own against any team in Europe and you can tell by where the world ranks us and our campionato where the world thinks our class is. We are not a top tier league or team and we need years to be at their levels.
 

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AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,099
Pretty much everone would be better solution...
Allegri is among the worst possible choices a team of our class, with three consecutive titles in Italy could get...
Our class? Can we be realistic for one second. We were the best team amongst a bunch of sub par serie A clubs. We couldn't hold our own against any team in Europe and you can tell by where the world ranks us and our campionato where the world thinks our class is. We are not a top tier league or team and we need years to be at their levels.
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
Mancini would be better than Allegri in my opinion.....
No way. he sucks and he's an inter merda douche.

Id have taken a gamble with Carrera. Hes the only one who could actually continue Conte's work and still maintain the respect of the team and philosophy
Not often that happens but I actually agree. Alessio + Carrera should carry on instead we get a spineless excuse of a coach. I think fans could live with Conte leaving seeing his assistants would continue the job where he left. Instead the board gives a stab to the fans by appointing Allegri :sergio:
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
Mancini would be better than Allegri in my opinion.....
No way. he sucks and he's an inter merda douche.

Id have taken a gamble with Carrera. Hes the only one who could actually continue Conte's work and still maintain the respect of the team and philosophy
Not often that happens but I actually agree. Alessio + Carrera should carry on instead we get a spineless excuse of a coach. I think fans could live with Conte leaving seeing his assistants would continue the job where he left. Instead the board gives a stab to the fans by appointing Allegri :sergio:
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,503
Our class? Can we be realistic for one second. We were the best team amongst a bunch of sub par serie A clubs. We couldn't hold our own against any team in Europe and you can tell by where the world ranks us and our campionato where the world thinks our class is. We are not a top tier league or team and we need years to be at their levels.
We are amongst Europes 20best, arent we?
Is Allegri one of the 20best coaches?
Noone claimed that should we get Mourinho, but between him and Allegri, there is quite difference.
Stop being so absolute, both as far as players and coaches are concerned...
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,503
Our class? Can we be realistic for one second. We were the best team amongst a bunch of sub par serie A clubs. We couldn't hold our own against any team in Europe and you can tell by where the world ranks us and our campionato where the world thinks our class is. We are not a top tier league or team and we need years to be at their levels.
We are amongst Europes 20best, arent we?
Is Allegri one of the 20best coaches?
Noone claimed that should we get Mourinho, but between him and Allegri, there is quite difference.
Stop being so absolute, both as far as players and coaches are concerned...
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,493
Our class? Can we be realistic for one second. We were the best team amongst a bunch of sub par serie A clubs. We couldn't hold our own against any team in Europe and you can tell by where the world ranks us and our campionato where the world thinks our class is. We are not a top tier league or team and we need years to be at their levels.
wat
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,493
Our class? Can we be realistic for one second. We were the best team amongst a bunch of sub par serie A clubs. We couldn't hold our own against any team in Europe and you can tell by where the world ranks us and our campionato where the world thinks our class is. We are not a top tier league or team and we need years to be at their levels.
wat
 

Joe

Senior Member
Dec 20, 2009
14,980
Mancini stinks. The only reason he won an EPL title is because he had all the money in the world at his disposal.

Not that I think Allegri is much better, but I prefer Allegri to him.

Mancini tooted Napoli to win the Scudetto. :inter:
 

Joe

Senior Member
Dec 20, 2009
14,980
Mancini stinks. The only reason he won an EPL title is because he had all the money in the world at his disposal.

Not that I think Allegri is much better, but I prefer Allegri to him.

Mancini tooted Napoli to win the Scudetto. :inter:
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,099
We are amongst Europes 20best, arent we?
Is Allegri one of the 20best coaches?
Noone claimed that should we get Mourinho, but between him Allegri, there is quite difference.
Stop being so absolute, both as far as players and coaches are concerned...
Were among European 20 best? Is that very difficult. Milan is on that list

- - - Updated - - -

Some on here seem to not realize how different of a club we are after calciopoli and the restrictions we have and the cred we lost
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,099
We are amongst Europes 20best, arent we?
Is Allegri one of the 20best coaches?
Noone claimed that should we get Mourinho, but between him Allegri, there is quite difference.
Stop being so absolute, both as far as players and coaches are concerned...
Were among European 20 best? Is that very difficult. Milan is on that list

- - - Updated - - -

Some on here seem to not realize how different of a club we are after calciopoli and the restrictions we have and the cred we lost
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,481
another article that hits the nail on the fvcking head-

The decision to hand the recently-vacated hotseat to the former Milan boss has had many Juve fans reacting with anger, and rightly so

COMMENT
By Kris Voakes | International Football Correspondent

“Andrea, our coach Massimiliano Allegri reckons that if you stay, you won’t be able to play in front of the defence. He’s got a different role in mind for you. Still in midfield, but on the left.”

Those were the words of CEO Adriano Galliani on the day Andrea Pirlo’s spell with AC Milan came to an end. After 10 years at one club, most players get a testimonial. Pirlo got a kick in the backside.

But it was Allegri who felt it the most in the long term.

Pirlo took the snub with dignity, went to Juventus and won three successive titles. He was the metronome around which Antonio Conte based his entire squad, and the catalyst behind the club’s revival.

While all this was going on, Allegri was making major errors of judgement. Having won the Scudetto in his first season in charge, he let the success go to his head. He decided that Pirlo and Mark van Bommel couldn’t play in the same side, and the Dutchman couldn’t perform anywhere but in front of the back four.

Despite Van Bommel later going on to show at PSV that he had more than enough ability to play off-centre, the coach was adamant, and without Pirlo Milan struggled to gain midfield control in many of their fixtures.

He also risked Thiago Silva’s fitness against Roma three days before a Champions League clash with Barcelona, the Brazilian lasted 10 minutes, missed the rest of the season, Milan lost the title and the defender never played for the club again.

DOWNWARD SPIRAL | Allegri's Milan
2010-11

1st
After Silvio Berlusconi splashed out on Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Robinho, Allegri guided the club to the Scudetto at the first attempt. Clarence Seedorf's late-season renaissance was the catalyst behind the triumph.
2011-12

2nd
Milan squandered the title with a late nosedive having gone toe-to-toe with Juve for 29 rounds. Zlatan Ibrahimovic scored 35 goals and Antonio Nocerino netted 11, but there was little support from the rest of the squad.
2012-13

3rd
A shocking beginning to the season left Milan playing catch-up, and only a Mario Balotelli-inspired run-in saw them claim third spot on the final day. Stephan El Shaarway's rise bailed Allegri out in early part of season.
2013-14

11th*
Another poor start could not be recovered, and Allegri was fired after defeat to Sassuolo in January left them in 11th at the halfway stage. Seedorf took over, but the damage was done.
Yet still Allegri didn’t learn his lesson. Alexandre Pato was regularly rushed back despite his significant record of muscle issues, while Van Bommel and others were also asked to play when short of fitness and both results and bodies suffered as a consequence.

Tactically, he proved himself to be short too. Much of his spell with the Rossoneri was focused on the individual brilliance of one man. In his first two seasons, that man was Zlatan Ibrahimovic, but after the failure to win the title in 2012 the Swede was gone. The following term began abysmally, with only Stephan El Shaarawy’s meteoric rise saving Milan from ignominy, and the January signing of Mario Balotelli gave Allegri a new totem pole to lean on.

There was also nothing of note that appeared to come from the training ground. After cleverly posting Mauro Tassotti to the task of working with Ignazio Abate immediately after being given the Milan job, Allegri’s coaching gained little extra credence. Other than the converted right-back, there were no obvious improvements in any of the players he had inherited.

The result of it all was that in January 2014, with Milan struggling in the bottom half of Serie A, Allegri was fired. The Diavolo had lost 17 points from leading positions over the first half of the season, culminating in a 4-3 loss at lowly Sassuolo.

Allegri may have had little support on the market in a time of austerity, but he had done absolutely nothing to help himself. There was no direction, no tactical ingenuity and no real rhyme or reason to team selection. His Milan had become one of the ugliest sides the club had had in living memory.

When he was pushed out of the same door from which Pirlo departed two-and-a-half years earlier, nobody could have foreseen that his destination would be the same as the midfielder’s.

The decision by Juventus to follow the resignation of Antonio Conte with the appointment of Allegri is nothing short of suicidal.

A club already in chaos – with the the futures of star players in doubt, political wranglings, transfer plans up in the air, Conte’s resignation fresh in the mind, and a disappointing European season to make up for – has just added another item to its list of issues.

Will Paul Pogba and Arturo Vidal, who has been flirting with Manchester United the past week, see the arrival of Allegri as a good reason to stick around? No.

Will potential replacements believe that the ex-Cagliari and Sassuolo boss is the man to entrust with their short to long-term futures? Probably not.

Will the 46-year-old continue the recent trend of Juve playing high-energy, attack-heavy football? History suggests no.

Juventus have not signed a coach who will take them forward. They have signed somebody with a proven track record for going along with whatever his employers throw his way. It might sound like the kind of thing they need having just lost a man who was unwilling to meet them halfway, but Allegri’s approach hasn’t got him nearly far enough in the past.

Roma in particular have dealt very well this summer, bringing in the experience of Ashley Cole and Seydou Keita along with youngsters like Jonatan Lucca. But the biggest boost to any potential Scudetto challenger has come in Turin this week.

The exit of Conte was enough to have the rest of Serie A rubbing its hands with glee. The appointment of Allegri will probably spark parties in every non-Juventino house in the country.
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,481
another article that hits the nail on the fvcking head-

The decision to hand the recently-vacated hotseat to the former Milan boss has had many Juve fans reacting with anger, and rightly so

COMMENT
By Kris Voakes | International Football Correspondent

“Andrea, our coach Massimiliano Allegri reckons that if you stay, you won’t be able to play in front of the defence. He’s got a different role in mind for you. Still in midfield, but on the left.”

Those were the words of CEO Adriano Galliani on the day Andrea Pirlo’s spell with AC Milan came to an end. After 10 years at one club, most players get a testimonial. Pirlo got a kick in the backside.

But it was Allegri who felt it the most in the long term.

Pirlo took the snub with dignity, went to Juventus and won three successive titles. He was the metronome around which Antonio Conte based his entire squad, and the catalyst behind the club’s revival.

While all this was going on, Allegri was making major errors of judgement. Having won the Scudetto in his first season in charge, he let the success go to his head. He decided that Pirlo and Mark van Bommel couldn’t play in the same side, and the Dutchman couldn’t perform anywhere but in front of the back four.

Despite Van Bommel later going on to show at PSV that he had more than enough ability to play off-centre, the coach was adamant, and without Pirlo Milan struggled to gain midfield control in many of their fixtures.

He also risked Thiago Silva’s fitness against Roma three days before a Champions League clash with Barcelona, the Brazilian lasted 10 minutes, missed the rest of the season, Milan lost the title and the defender never played for the club again.

DOWNWARD SPIRAL | Allegri's Milan
2010-11

1st
After Silvio Berlusconi splashed out on Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Robinho, Allegri guided the club to the Scudetto at the first attempt. Clarence Seedorf's late-season renaissance was the catalyst behind the triumph.
2011-12

2nd
Milan squandered the title with a late nosedive having gone toe-to-toe with Juve for 29 rounds. Zlatan Ibrahimovic scored 35 goals and Antonio Nocerino netted 11, but there was little support from the rest of the squad.
2012-13

3rd
A shocking beginning to the season left Milan playing catch-up, and only a Mario Balotelli-inspired run-in saw them claim third spot on the final day. Stephan El Shaarway's rise bailed Allegri out in early part of season.
2013-14

11th*
Another poor start could not be recovered, and Allegri was fired after defeat to Sassuolo in January left them in 11th at the halfway stage. Seedorf took over, but the damage was done.
Yet still Allegri didn’t learn his lesson. Alexandre Pato was regularly rushed back despite his significant record of muscle issues, while Van Bommel and others were also asked to play when short of fitness and both results and bodies suffered as a consequence.

Tactically, he proved himself to be short too. Much of his spell with the Rossoneri was focused on the individual brilliance of one man. In his first two seasons, that man was Zlatan Ibrahimovic, but after the failure to win the title in 2012 the Swede was gone. The following term began abysmally, with only Stephan El Shaarawy’s meteoric rise saving Milan from ignominy, and the January signing of Mario Balotelli gave Allegri a new totem pole to lean on.

There was also nothing of note that appeared to come from the training ground. After cleverly posting Mauro Tassotti to the task of working with Ignazio Abate immediately after being given the Milan job, Allegri’s coaching gained little extra credence. Other than the converted right-back, there were no obvious improvements in any of the players he had inherited.

The result of it all was that in January 2014, with Milan struggling in the bottom half of Serie A, Allegri was fired. The Diavolo had lost 17 points from leading positions over the first half of the season, culminating in a 4-3 loss at lowly Sassuolo.

Allegri may have had little support on the market in a time of austerity, but he had done absolutely nothing to help himself. There was no direction, no tactical ingenuity and no real rhyme or reason to team selection. His Milan had become one of the ugliest sides the club had had in living memory.

When he was pushed out of the same door from which Pirlo departed two-and-a-half years earlier, nobody could have foreseen that his destination would be the same as the midfielder’s.

The decision by Juventus to follow the resignation of Antonio Conte with the appointment of Allegri is nothing short of suicidal.

A club already in chaos – with the the futures of star players in doubt, political wranglings, transfer plans up in the air, Conte’s resignation fresh in the mind, and a disappointing European season to make up for – has just added another item to its list of issues.

Will Paul Pogba and Arturo Vidal, who has been flirting with Manchester United the past week, see the arrival of Allegri as a good reason to stick around? No.

Will potential replacements believe that the ex-Cagliari and Sassuolo boss is the man to entrust with their short to long-term futures? Probably not.

Will the 46-year-old continue the recent trend of Juve playing high-energy, attack-heavy football? History suggests no.

Juventus have not signed a coach who will take them forward. They have signed somebody with a proven track record for going along with whatever his employers throw his way. It might sound like the kind of thing they need having just lost a man who was unwilling to meet them halfway, but Allegri’s approach hasn’t got him nearly far enough in the past.

Roma in particular have dealt very well this summer, bringing in the experience of Ashley Cole and Seydou Keita along with youngsters like Jonatan Lucca. But the biggest boost to any potential Scudetto challenger has come in Turin this week.

The exit of Conte was enough to have the rest of Serie A rubbing its hands with glee. The appointment of Allegri will probably spark parties in every non-Juventino house in the country.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,493
Were among European 20 best? Is that very difficult. Milan is on that list

- - - Updated - - -

Some on here seem to not realize how different of a club we are after calciopoli and the restrictions we have and the cred we lost
what restrictions? we spend with the best of them, we are easily top 8 performance wise, we own our stadium and up until yesterday we all thought wed challenge seriously for cl in 15/16.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,493
Were among European 20 best? Is that very difficult. Milan is on that list

- - - Updated - - -

Some on here seem to not realize how different of a club we are after calciopoli and the restrictions we have and the cred we lost
what restrictions? we spend with the best of them, we are easily top 8 performance wise, we own our stadium and up until yesterday we all thought wed challenge seriously for cl in 15/16.
 

WΏΏdy?

Senior Member
Dec 23, 2005
14,997
Our class? Can we be realistic for one second. We were the best team amongst a bunch of sub par serie A clubs. We couldn't hold our own against any team in Europe and you can tell by where the world ranks us and our campionato where the world thinks our class is. We are not a top tier league or team and we need years to be at their levels.
Oh fuck off
 

WΏΏdy?

Senior Member
Dec 23, 2005
14,997
Our class? Can we be realistic for one second. We were the best team amongst a bunch of sub par serie A clubs. We couldn't hold our own against any team in Europe and you can tell by where the world ranks us and our campionato where the world thinks our class is. We are not a top tier league or team and we need years to be at their levels.
Oh fuck off
 

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