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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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His interviews has gotten stranger past 2 months, he doesnt seem comfortable at all in the position of scrutiny. The pressure and attention is getting to him perhaps.

After 2 scudetto with us and succeeding Conte, I imagine the position of being Juve coach is kinda thankless/hard one to be in terms of receiving plaudites or less pressure. You keep winning the league and no one gives you much of any credit for it as coach, its basically seen as routine you will crucified for if you look like failing (and oh boy does Italy would love to see Juve fail, not out of rilvalry alone but just to say "see, we arent the scottish league yet"). Its the kind of sitaution that requires more of a motivator who reinvents sense of purpose one step at a time, and he was never one.

More ridicolous pressure to boot when your main goal is get CL or its seen as bust season but thats more shot in the dark in knock out rounds and requires bit of key decisive quality we dont have abundance of in some ways like some other few teams do.



He was awful with how he faced the increasing pressure in Milan in last season (melt down levels, was poor with player management too), so even if its a luxury problem for him in Juve, I take it the sense of being taken for granted and not getting much say in mercato will eventually get to this guy more and more. If things become more tense, wouldnt be suprised if he is looking at EPL in very alluring eyes more and more. More of a spotlight, fresh beginning and general huge colosseum for top coaches these days.
Just pray to whatever gods that we don't have a "gol di muntari" episode this season. :scared:
 

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Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Just pray to whatever gods that we don't have a "gol di muntari" episode this season. :scared:
I'm fine with him losing his shit on occasion, dude is too calm (and it probably reflects on the team somehow, It cant be a coincidence they keep losing focus on so many games), even if its kinda loser mentality to meltdown like that.

But what I'm fine not with is if he has the same issues he had in Milan, he was completely out of ideas tactically and was just running on fumes stubbornly, refused to do anything and just kept on trucking on as a yes man.

If it comes to that with us, in much lesser degree ofcourse (because we are in kind of sitaution where just winning league alone will be seen as failure...), then I'm glad if he and the board comes to terms to end the relationship amicably and find someone else with fresher ideas, instead of ignoring things and hope it works itself out.
 

dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
2,599
As a coach for Juventus, no. His teams can't defend, he's had many embarrassing results over the years most notably the 7-1 from Man U, and has never achieved anything other than in Russia.
I dont think that is correct. Roma has the second best defense in Italy right now and seems like a pretty balanced team. He won in Russia and in hos first spell with Roma he did really well to. He is significantly more proven than both Conte and Allegri was when they became Juve coaches.
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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I dont think that is correct. Roma has the second best defense in Italy right now and seems like a pretty balanced team. He won in Russia and in hos first spell with Roma he did really well to. He is significantly more proven than both Conte and Allegri was when they became Juve coaches.
How the hell is he more proven than Allegri???
 

dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
2,599
They ALL will choke as a Juve coaches,but I agree that his fitness staff should be fired asap.

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Starting to lose control and that is the field that he wasn't good at ,never.


Why should the all choke here? They are all respectet and succesfull coaches in their respective teams. I dont see why they should choke here?
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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I dont think that is correct. Roma has the second best defense in Italy right now and seems like a pretty balanced team. He won in Russia and in hos first spell with Roma he did really well to. He is significantly more proven than both Conte and Allegri was when they became Juve coaches.
Spalletti is a joke as a top coach material, a nice guy who is attack minded but limited tactically and severely so mentally too.


I hope he never ever coaches Juve due to his lack competence, tho seems likeable.


Allegri was league champion just couple seasons before coming to us. Spalletti only thing he has been number in is embarrassing meltdowns for his Roma, and unimportant coppa title. He is at his ceiling with Roma, no improvement at all, so has no business coming to us.

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dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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How the hell is he more proven than Allegri???
When Allegri joined us he had experience from Cagliary and Milan in Seria A. With a title in his first season in Milan as his most notable result. Spalletti has coached Roma for 5 years and Zenit for 4 years. Two league titles in Russia, a couple of Coppa titles for Roma and 3 times runners up in Seria A if I am not mistaken.

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Spalletti is a joke as a top coach material, a nice guy who is attack minded but limited tactically and severely so mentally too.


I hope he never ever coaches Juve due to his lack competence, tho seems likeable.


Allegri was league champion just couple seasons before coming to us. Spalletti only thing he has been number in is embarrassing meltdowns for his Roma, and unimportant coppa title. He is at his ceiling with Roma, no improvement at all, so has no business coming to us.

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Roma are notouriusly a bunch of headcases. I actually think he have worked wonders for them since taking over.
He has done a lot better for them than Louis Enrique and the french violinist.

And I really dont see the tacticly limited part at all. You could argue that in his first spell in Roma, but definetly not his second.
 

1251alex

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Dec 13, 2011
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A few seasons ago i'd have agreed on him, but i'm no fan anymore.

EDF looks very promising for sure :agree:
I read an EDF interview last season and he left me very impressed with his coaching philosophy. His attacking style would unleash this squad's potential imo. I feel like traditional Italian coaches are afraid to let em loose.
 

dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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A few seasons ago i'd have agreed on him, but i'm no fan anymore.

EDF looks very promising for sure :agree:
What made you change your mind on Montella. He has done really well at Milan.

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EDF and Montella are the only two I would want within Serie A. EDF was $#@!ed by injuries this season imo.
EDF is another interesting coach. Would be quite a gamble though.

For me Sarri should be first choice, then Sousa and Montella. Unless we could get Simeone offcourse.
 

DUKAC

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Feb 29, 2012
12,286
Why should the all choke here? They are all respectet and succesfull coaches in their respective teams. I dont see why they should choke here?
Yeah they are well respected and maybe good but for their shitty teams not for Juve.Even if they make the team consisting of that four coaches you mention to coach Juve they won't be good for us.Let's keep them away from us enjoying their"respectful" teams.

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What made you change your mind on Montella. He has done really well at Milan.

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EDF is another interesting coach. Would be quite a gamble though.

For me Sarri should be first choice, then Sousa and Montella. Unless we could get Simeone offcourse.
That merda fan shit face will never be our coach.Luckily.
 

dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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Yeah they are well respected and maybe good but for their $#@!ty teams not for Juve.Even if they make the team consisting of that four coaches you mention to coach Juve they won't be good for us.Let's keep them away from us enjoying their"respectful" teams.

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That merda fan $#@! face will never be our coach.Luckily.
Okay then. So you dont like Sarri, Montella, Spalletti, Sousa or Simeone.

In the case Allegri really does leave this summer, who would you like?
 

Juvellino

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Mar 19, 2015
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Sarri is a good manager but wouldn't leave Napoli. I'm not crazy about him and prefer Allegri. But if Allegri were to leave I would want EDF or Sousa as far as Serie A managers go. Rastelli is one to watch imo.

Simeone is my first choice because he's the best manager in Europe. Jardim is also a very good manager.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
:agree:

In regards to Sarri, he's among the best coaches of Serie A, but I'm personally not a fan of his style of football (nothing to do for with it being offensive oriented).
All 3 are offensive coaches, but Sarri more well rounded and intensively aggressive and high tempo footie, while being decent possession style. His brand of footie could suit CL well in bigger club.


EDF is more gunho counter attacking footie, kinda not so much balance for defence, while Sousa is heavily centralized tiki taka hybrid.


But imo we should ignore all and go for a name outside of Serie A.

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Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
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All 3 are offensive coaches, but Sarri more well rounded and intensively aggressive and high tempo footie, while being decent possession style. His brand of footie could suit CL well in bigger club.


EDF is more gunho counter attacking footie, kinda not so much balance for defence, while Sousa is heavily centralized tiki taka hybrid.


But imo we should ignore all and go for a name outside of Serie A.

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Jardim.
 

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