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Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
We lost the supercoppa.

We have been playing like shit all year.

He has been linked with a departure this week.

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Juve played very dynamic positive football in the Lippi era. I dont care if we park the bus against Real, Barca, Bayern etc. Just win the game in any way possible, but dont grind out results against Chievo at the Juventus Stadium, when you have a squad that can do so much better.

And Napoli dont win anything because they dont have the organisation, winning mentality or funds to compete with us. Not because of Sarri, who have worked wonders for them, and certainly not because of their style of football.
We are first inis serie a by 7 points, won the cl group.

But oh noes we dont play fancy, ignoring the insane injuries.

Supercup was not his fault.
 

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Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,321
tbh, I almost don't care how we play in the autumn and winter while we are still in the race. Juventus I remember never had a champagne football style, even in Del Piero-Vialli-Ravanelli trident times, no matter who coached it. Don't know about Platini times. Winning matters for me.
And napoli is one that teams that are really good looking, fun to watch, but never gonna win $#@!. Because it's fun to watch while no pressure applied, but on the main stage they gonna crumble.
But if Max fails to deliver in spring, street him.
Dont know what you are talking about.. I think Juve of 97 and 98 certainly played some great football! These years despite not winning the CL We were undoubtly the best in Europe!
 

PedroFlu

Senior Member
Sep 20, 2011
7,166
I also have a feeling this is his last year.

There's been a shitload of criticism this year, it takes a toll. The team hasn't really gelled, and I remember him expressly saying in the summer that he was waiting for 1 or 2 new midfielders - and none arrived. That was after Pjanic if I'm not mistaken.

There's been a clear mistake by Marotta with the roster construction, which is the main cause of struggles.

Allegri had his share of responsibility, but he's been bashed left and right. Also because of the muscular injury epidemy that carries on this season, while Allegri keeps trying to underrate - only to protect his own.

Unless there is a change in direction and the team highly succeeds in Europe - atm it doesn't look like that - I think Allegri is indeed gone by the end of the season.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,762
Unless there is a change in direction and the team highly succeeds in Europe - atm it doesn't look like that - I think Allegri is indeed gone by the end of the season.
How can you say that already? There's a long way to go still, and it depends on different factors. It's impossible to call our season from now. Sure we're not playing convincing football, but still... well let me not repeat what results we've achieved so far.

There's at least a month and a half to find form before our next CL game. And we should expect to qualify against Porto. After that, it depends on the draw and luck, injuries, etc. We can always get a team who is in worse form than us. I prefer to just wait and see what happens.
 

Kopanja

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Jul 30, 2015
5,594
Dont know what you are talking about.. I think Juve of 97 and 98 certainly played some great football! These years despite not winning the CL We were undoubtly the best in Europe!
I said we didn't play champagne football (like Barcas dream-team, or Sacchi's Milan at their peak), it doesn't mean we didn't play great football. Juve was high-pressing war machine, where Vialli played the "first DM", it was not about beautiful combos and tiki-fucking-takas, it was about breaking your opponent down and running him in the ground. Great football, but no champagne. It's all imo of course.
 

PedroFlu

Senior Member
Sep 20, 2011
7,166
How can you say that already? There's a long way to go still, and it depends on different factors. It's impossible to call our season from now. Sure we're not playing convincing football, but still... well let me not repeat what results we've achieved so far.

There's at least a month and a half to find form before our next CL game. And we should expect to qualify against Porto. After that, it depends on the draw and luck, injuries, etc. We can always get a team who is in worse form than us. I prefer to just wait and see what happens.
It's just a feeling he's worn out because of media/fanbase pressure, not really linked to results. It's related to performances and muscular injuries.

But his contract runs out only in 2018, so maybe he stays for next season.. if it ended now, I'd bet he'd leave.

And if it happens, I'd say it would be his own choice, a resigning, not sacked by Marotta.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,642
i don't really give a shit about these rumors of max leaving, but from vidal, marchisio, pirlo & pogba to marchisio, pjanic, khedira and rincon in 2 seasons :lol: i'd surely be pissed if i were him.
 

dolph

Senior Member
Mar 30, 2006
2,599
i don't really give a $#@! about these rumors of max leaving, but from vidal, marchisio, pirlo & pogba to marchisio, pjanic, khedira and rincon in 2 seasons :lol: i'd surely be pissed if i were him.
Would you also be mad about the from Licht, Evra to AS and Alves/Cuadrado or Llorente to Higuain?
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,762
It's just a feeling he's worn out because of media/fanbase pressure, not really linked to results. It's related to performances and muscular injuries.

But his contract runs out only in 2018, so maybe he stays for next season.. if it ended now, I'd bet he'd leave.

And if it happens, I'd say it would be his own choice, a resigning, not sacked by Marotta.
The pressure is because of the performances, not the other way around. If the performances pick up, the pressure will ease. It's no worse than it was last year.

But yeah, I think if we have a disappointing season in Europe, it could be his last here. Actually, if we have a great one he could leave as well. After 3 years, it could be difficult to keep the hunger for more Scudetti, and we may need a fresh face.

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Would you also be mad about the from Licht, Evra to AS and Alves/Cuadrado or Llorente to Higuain?
Licht actually used to be a top fullback. Cuad and the current Alves are inferior to the old Licht imo.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
82,842
Loved him but the way he used Pogs at the Euros was a disaster. Should've been punished for that. With a little bit of decent tactics they would've easily won it...
Well Pogba isn't here for him to improperly use him so part of he problem is solved


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dolph

Senior Member
Mar 30, 2006
2,599
The pressure is because of the performances, not the other way around. If the performances pick up, the pressure will ease. It's no worse than it was last year.

But yeah, I think if we have a disappointing season in Europe, it could be his last here. Actually, if we have a great one he could leave as well. After 3 years, it could be difficult to keep the hunger for more Scudetti, and we may need a fresh face.

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Licht actually used to be a top fullback. Cuad and the current Alves are inferior to the old Licht imo.
Not as a RWB in a 3-5-2?
 

dolph

Senior Member
Mar 30, 2006
2,599
Yes, in Conte's days he was a top RWB when we played 3-5-2
No he was not. He was a WC RB. A solid RWB, who defended well, and maid some good runs ( he had a good understanding with Pirlo), but also completely hopeless in one on one situation, very limited in the build up play and I dont think I ever seen one of hes crosses actually reaching a Juve player.

Cuadrado has been amazing as a RWB for us ( not the last couple of games offcourse), and Alves is going to be amazing in that position if we actually place him in a team with other creative and tecnical players.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,762
No he was not. He was a WC RB. A solid RWB, who defended well, and maid some good runs ( he had a good understanding with Pirlo), but also completely hopeless in one on one situation, very limited in the build up play and I dont think I ever seen one of hes crosses actually reaching a Juve player.

Cuadrado has been amazing as a RWB for us ( not the last couple of games offcourse), and Alves is going to be amazing in that position if we actually place him in a team with other creative and tecnical players.
Well we'll just disagree.

Cuad doesn't play RWB week in, week out like Licht. I doubt he would look good if he had to play there every week. Being a RWB is more than just being a winger playing deeper. Heck, Cuad's inconsistency is the reason he's on the bench these days.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,321
Another link to Arsenal - If it continues I`ll start believing it
Anyway if we lose Allegri I can only see Sousa as his replacement (not what I want but what I think our management would do)
Sousa isnt a bad manager - In fact he is a pretty good one but Im not sure about his teams defensive stance and he is unproven with the big dogs

Simeone is someone who really fits our defensive philosophy so I can really see us doing well with him in charge but I cant see us getting him
Euesbio Di Francesco is way unproven at a big club but I think he does a great job with Sassuolo and it would be interesting + he would probably bring the trident along with him
 

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