Massimiliano Allegri (211 Viewers)

[Siamak]

whatever the tactics he will use... having Higuain-Dybala and struggling to score is a huge failure.

when you have good strikers you don't really need that much build up play, many coaches find way to supply them... but the problem he still think he have Pirlo-Vidal-Pogba in Khedira-Pjanic-Sturaro. it's impossible to play possession patient build up with them. once he forget about this idea and start having a plan depending on the players he have then everything will start to work... otherwise i think we are in for long struggle throughout the season.

Allegri is failing bring out the best of pjanic and dybala.i would say we are better than we were 2014 2015.i don't know why allegri always chooses 3 5 2 while we are clearly better with 4 man backline coz sandro and alves are upgrades on flanks.

 

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[Hydde]

AS has a fantastic left foot, lets try him as a RW

Nice comparison bro....glorious!

 

[zizinho]

atleast im not suggesting Dybala to play wide

 

[dolph]

we will continue with the 352/4312 for now for sure

CB CB CB
Cuadrado Sami Marchisio Pjanic Evra
Higgy Manbro/Dybi

Licht CB CB Evra
Sami Marchisio Stu
Pjanic/Dybi
Higgy Manbro/Dybi
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Licht CB CB Evra
Cuadrado Sami Marchisio Pjaca/Stu
Higgy Manbro/Dybi​

maybe when Pjaca is back we will try it but wont bet on it

Please dont ever put Sturaro as an alternativ to Pjaca as a LM. Sturaro should be a bench option holding mid, or sold to some midtable Seria A, were he belongs.
Dybala is a clear starter no matter what formation and Mandzu should be backup for Higuain, when he is injured, needs a rest, or as a tactical alternativ.

 

[zizinho]

Please dont ever put Sturaro as an alternativ to Pjaca as a LM. Sturaro should be a bench option holding mid, or sold to some midtable Seria A, were he belongs.
Dybala is a clear starter no matter what formation and Mandzu should be backup for Higuain, when he is injured, needs a rest, or as a tactical alternativ.

well i did say for now, meaning next few weeks (notice Evra and Licht as fullbacks). also, Sturaro is the only one besides Pjaca, AS and Marchisio who can play there, and since Marchisio shouldnt be moved away from his ideal role and the other 2 are injured (Pjaca should be back soon i think), Sturaro becomes an option there. if we ever see that formation that is, but i already mentioned that i dont think we will

Mandzu wont be benched in the near future, as long as he plays in such great form. Dybala is coming back from his injury and will slowly start getting more playing time, so we will see more rotations upfront

 

[rakib567]

Please dont ever put Sturaro as an alternativ to Pjaca as a LM. Sturaro should be a bench option holding mid, or sold to some midtable Seria A, were he belongs.
Dybala is a clear starter no matter what formation and Mandzu should be backup for Higuain, when he is injured, needs a rest, or as a tactical alternativ.

Sturaro is juventus material. He might not be flashy or skillfull but gets the job done and gives 110% all the time.

 

[duranfj]

we will continue with the 352/4312 for now for sure

CB CB CB
Cuadrado Sami Marchisio Pjanic Evra
Higgy Manbro/Dybi

Licht CB CB Evra
Sami Marchisio Stu
Pjanic/Dybi
Higgy Manbro/Dybi
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442 could also be interesting

Licht CB CB Evra
Cuadrado Sami Marchisio Pjaca/Stu
Higgy Manbro/Dybi​

maybe when Pjaca is back we will try it but wont bet on it

Play Higuain as an starter and Dybala as a choice is a clear example that we both see two different juventus. When Farca was a WC team with Dinho & Cía they didn't hesitate a bit in giving Messi his right spot, I'm not saying Paulo is Leo but he's our most talented guy buy far far far so in my dream team he always play no matter what

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And Sturaro isn't a starter. Third bench option material

 

[zizinho]

Play Higuain as an starter and Dybala as a choice is a clear example that we both see two different juventus. When Farca was a WC team with Dinho & Cía they didn't hesitate a bit in giving Messi his right spot, I'm not saying Paulo is Leo but he's our most talented guy buy far far far so in my dream team he always play no matter what

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And Sturaro isn't a starter. Third bench option material

we will continue with the 352/4312 for now for sure

CB CB CB
Cuadrado Sami Marchisio Pjanic Evra
Higgy Manbro/Dybi

Licht CB CB Evra
Sami Marchisio Stu
Pjanic/Dybi
Higgy Manbro/Dybi
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442 could also be interesting

Licht CB CB Evra
Cuadrado Sami Marchisio Pjaca/Stu
Higgy Manbro/Dybi​

maybe when Pjaca is back we will try it but wont bet on it

well i did say for now, meaning next few weeks (notice Evra and Licht as fullbacks). also, Sturaro is the only one besides Pjaca, AS and Marchisio who can play there, and since Marchisio shouldnt be moved away from his ideal role and the other 2 are injured (Pjaca should be back soon i think), Sturaro becomes an option there. if we ever see that formation that is, but i already mentioned that i dont think we will

Mandzu wont be benched in the near future, as long as he plays in such great form. Dybala is coming back from his injury and will slowly start getting more playing time, so we will see more rotations upfront

also, i was against signing Higgy because i wanted the team built around Dybala (and Pogba, but we all know how that went) and a CF that would compliment him better. but oh well..

 

[dolph]

well i did say for now, meaning next few weeks (notice Evra and Licht as fullbacks). also, Sturaro is the only one besides Pjaca, AS and Marchisio who can play there, and since Marchisio shouldnt be moved away from his ideal role and the other 2 are injured (Pjaca should be back soon i think), Sturaro becomes an option there. if we ever see that formation that is, but i already mentioned that i dont think we will

Mandzu wont be benched in the near future, as long as he plays in such great form. Dybala is coming back from his injury and will slowly start getting more playing time, so we will see more rotations upfront

I dont think Sturaro has ever played LM so why should he be an option. He had absolutely no caracteristics that would make excel as a LM.
I dont care what form Mandzu is in. Dybala is still much better, and what is more important he makes the team much better. No more 2 CF system. The only possibility if you want Mandzu in the starting 11, is to bench Higuain or Pjanic and that would be a bad idéa aswell.
I have no doubt that Mandzu will start the next couple of matches being Allegri favorite and all, but that does not make it right.

 

[Zacheryah]

Is it ?

We dont play a wide 4-3-3, the width are the fullbacks

The 4-3-1-2 uses the fullbacks for width

The 3-5-2 uses the wingbacks.




However. In a 4-3-1-2 if your fullbacks suck, they dont show up and its extremely narrow

In a 3-5-2, as conte demonstrated with italy, your wingbacks are always high and keeping the play wide. Its a bonus if they add offensively. But just fielding wingbacks to switch the play to, allow the play to remain wide, leaving the middle less crowded.


Only a 3-5-2 can do this with mediocre fullbacks.


Juve used asamoah and licht to great succes. They literally added nothing. But kept the play wide, so vidal and pogba could fucking rape in the middle.




We should go 3-5-2 With Evra and Cuadrado. This would also give an LCB dedicated to clean up grandpa's fuckings

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------------------Buffon

-------Benatia - Rugani - Chiellini

Cuadrado - Pjanic - Marchisio - Sturaro - Evra

---------------Dybala - Higuain

or (in case dybala is unfit)


------------------Buffon

-------Benatia - Rugani - Chiellini

Cuadrado - Khedira- Marchisio - Pjanic- Evra

---------------Mandzukic- Higuain

 

[MikeM]

atleast im not suggesting Dybala to play wide

Inside winger. You make it sound like I want him to be Cuadrado. Ever seen Muller play RW? That's the idea really.

Remember David Villa? Please don't tell me he was a winger.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Ask a random Bayern fan and he will tell you that he doesn't want Müller on the right.

 

[BayernFan]

Ask a random Bayern fan and he will tell you that he doesn't want Müller on the right.

I agree. Playing with Müller on the right is like playing with 10 men.

 

[DAiDEViL]

I agree. Playing with Müller on the right is like playing with 10 men.

@Fr3sh

 

[MikeM]

Ask a random Bayern fan and he will tell you that he doesn't want Müller on the right.

Ya like I said, Dybala's best position is still as a SS but if he can play RW, maybe the team will improve as a consequence.

Right now our formations that can put Dybala at SS are not functioning properly for various reasons.

 

[Fr3sh]

@Fr3sh

I love Bayern, Dai. Its my club now <3

Now go to youre father and let him make you support Bayern. Let him be youre savior.

 

[Juventino★★★]

Allegri is failing bring out the best of pjanic and dybala.i would say we are better than we were 2014 2015.i don't know why allegri always chooses 3 5 2 while we are clearly better with 4 man backline coz sandro and alves are upgrades on flanks.

exactly. we don't really need to focus on the middle, the board bought many players to try many approaches. our creative players now are wingers and strikers yet we are still trying to out muscle every single team we play against in the middle of the pitch,

I just don't how he expect the team to create when he start with Sturaro,Khedira,Marchisio and Pjanic all together

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Allegri has won 69.17% of his games at Juventus. The highest ever percentage by a Juventus coach in the club's history.

69% win rate :ID:

So much for a boring, shitty, clueless, pussy manager with shit tactics

 

[pitbull]

I don't agree that a solution to our midfield problems is reducing the numbers from 3 CM's to 2, if 3 guys can't hold their own and keep the ball flowing, 2 will never manage. Lemina can be the box to box presence we're looking for, hell, it can even work with Khedira-Marchisio-Sturaro, if Sami gets his shit together and Sturaro works his ass off. I do agree that we should return to Dybala-Higuain/Mandzukic and rest Dybala in the games we can.

 

[Cheesio]

he cav leave next summer. disagreement with the managemet for the summer mercato and the way he uses Dybala.
Agnelli and Elkann wants P. Sousa

GDS.