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Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,890
You don't fee Juve have a stronger squad now than they did under those other coaches?

Even an okay coach, such as Allegri, stands a very good chance of winning the scudetto with Juve current group of players.
I think you just forgot Roma had 85 points last season. They could have had more if they did not throw the towel at the end of the run
 

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Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,890
You don't fee Juve have a stronger squad now than they did under those other coaches?

Even an okay coach, such as Allegri, stands a very good chance of winning the scudetto with Juve current group of players.
I think you just forgot Roma had 85 points last season. They could have had more if they did not throw the towel at the end of the run
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,501
whats youre point the squad has learned how to win, they wont just turn that off its ingrained in them now, they wont accept less
Whats his point? How about not underestimating the frigging importants of a quality coach in the helm? He told you the same defence unit before Conte conceaded 60% more goals then they after he took over. Now we are back to uncertain times of gambling on random mediocre Coach, and you just think they will magically continue on winning, like having a competent leader in charge doesnt matter? One wrong move and we can easily be back to those days in the coming 2 years, do not underestimate that clear possibility.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,501
whats youre point the squad has learned how to win, they wont just turn that off its ingrained in them now, they wont accept less
Whats his point? How about not underestimating the frigging importants of a quality coach in the helm? He told you the same defence unit before Conte conceaded 60% more goals then they after he took over. Now we are back to uncertain times of gambling on random mediocre Coach, and you just think they will magically continue on winning, like having a competent leader in charge doesnt matter? One wrong move and we can easily be back to those days in the coming 2 years, do not underestimate that clear possibility.
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,890
what baffles me is that you all do not see how allegri could have a fire in him to prove all the naysayers wrong and to be part of this historic run that Juve are on. If he gets scudettos and progresses in CL or even dare we say win CL he would not only redeem himself but be part of history. That for a coach is everything
I'm sorry but if Muntari's goal, lucky 3rd spot in Serie A in 2013, and Seedorf name constantly being mentioned as his replacement did not get him fired up, nothing can. he made a 19 yo kid look like CR7 ffs
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,890
what baffles me is that you all do not see how allegri could have a fire in him to prove all the naysayers wrong and to be part of this historic run that Juve are on. If he gets scudettos and progresses in CL or even dare we say win CL he would not only redeem himself but be part of history. That for a coach is everything
I'm sorry but if Muntari's goal, lucky 3rd spot in Serie A in 2013, and Seedorf name constantly being mentioned as his replacement did not get him fired up, nothing can. he made a 19 yo kid look like CR7 ffs
 
Oct 26, 2009
322
You don't fee Juve have a stronger squad now than they did under those other coaches?

Even an okay coach, such as Allegri, stands a very good chance of winning the scudetto with Juve current group of players.
fair enough.... but what happens when the current crop of players (which mostly are in their lates) fade out and he has to start from scratch
 
Oct 26, 2009
322
You don't fee Juve have a stronger squad now than they did under those other coaches?

Even an okay coach, such as Allegri, stands a very good chance of winning the scudetto with Juve current group of players.
fair enough.... but what happens when the current crop of players (which mostly are in their lates) fade out and he has to start from scratch
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,126
Whats his point? How about not underestimating the frigging importants of a quality coach in the helm? He told you the same defence unit before Conte conceaded 60% more goals then they after he took over. Now we are back to uncertain times of gambling on random mediocre Coach, and you just think they will magically continue on winning, like having a competent leader in charge doesnt matter? One wrong move and we can easily be back to those days in the coming 2 years, do not underestimate that clear possibility.
how about not judging a quality coach against one shit run at milan, remember many of you were saying the same about conte in the beginning
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,126
Whats his point? How about not underestimating the frigging importants of a quality coach in the helm? He told you the same defence unit before Conte conceaded 60% more goals then they after he took over. Now we are back to uncertain times of gambling on random mediocre Coach, and you just think they will magically continue on winning, like having a competent leader in charge doesnt matter? One wrong move and we can easily be back to those days in the coming 2 years, do not underestimate that clear possibility.
how about not judging a quality coach against one shit run at milan, remember many of you were saying the same about conte in the beginning
 

donpiero

Stella D'Argento
Jul 3, 2009
3,370
Our team knows how to win by having champions like Conte leading us.

And no not over night ofcourse (unless coach is way worse then imagineable), but after a season or two, it completely unrivals the club and the direction we are taking, just one poor appointment can turn things to $#@!, thats what I meant, and when I say $#@! I mean the seasons before Conte arrived (even if we are in alot stronger position/firmer foundation now). You know how we been last 3 years, the drive and motivation for succes, and how we were before that.

It doesnt take alot for something like that to happen, just poor decisions after another and failing to renew an ageing squad/holding on to your top quality players (who lets face is we would been hard enough to convince for the long term even without this cluster $#@!), it can change so quickly, I seen it happen so often with other top clubs, from closest rivals Inter and Milan, to even the mighty Barca, poor management choices that gets ignored after big successes. We are standing on the ledge here, I hope you realize that, the next two years would been very precarious times even we had Conte still, but without? I'm afraid we may go back to doing this on whim/to stay affloat, which leads to more risk to falter. We can and hopefully will do the best out of this $#@! sitaution, but this is clearly a big drawback, all I'm asking of you is to not pretend otherwise?
:tup: People prefer to be in total denial.
 

donpiero

Stella D'Argento
Jul 3, 2009
3,370
Our team knows how to win by having champions like Conte leading us.

And no not over night ofcourse (unless coach is way worse then imagineable), but after a season or two, it completely unrivals the club and the direction we are taking, just one poor appointment can turn things to $#@!, thats what I meant, and when I say $#@! I mean the seasons before Conte arrived (even if we are in alot stronger position/firmer foundation now). You know how we been last 3 years, the drive and motivation for succes, and how we were before that.

It doesnt take alot for something like that to happen, just poor decisions after another and failing to renew an ageing squad/holding on to your top quality players (who lets face is we would been hard enough to convince for the long term even without this cluster $#@!), it can change so quickly, I seen it happen so often with other top clubs, from closest rivals Inter and Milan, to even the mighty Barca, poor management choices that gets ignored after big successes. We are standing on the ledge here, I hope you realize that, the next two years would been very precarious times even we had Conte still, but without? I'm afraid we may go back to doing this on whim/to stay affloat, which leads to more risk to falter. We can and hopefully will do the best out of this $#@! sitaution, but this is clearly a big drawback, all I'm asking of you is to not pretend otherwise?
:tup: People prefer to be in total denial.
 

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