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I believe most footballers are on PEDs. The reason why no one ever gets caught is because there is no random testing in football. When players know the only time they get tested is before and after games than it's painfully easy to make sure whatever you're taking is no in your system at the time. Passing a drug test in football is nothing more then an intelligence test and/or being told by a doctor when you can and cannot take things
PED's got detection times
For football players i'd put them into two category's : during the season and during offseason
During season we are talking about
- improving stamina
- aggression
- recovery from heavy cardiac load
- recovery from muscular trauma
-> All PED's who do that are either far to lengthy to administrate (EPO, blood transfusion), or far to easily detected (oral steroids, waterbased steroids, beta 2 antagonists, amphetamines, andrenogen receptor antagonists)
Off season :
- Improving fatfree mass and muscular strenght
- Improving recovery from injury
Without whereabouts or random testing times, this is possible with short cycles of short estered PED's. Real Madrid is rather suspect of having done this with both Ronaldo and Bale.
Altho it seems like a gigantic risk to do this.
For football players i'd put them into two category's : during the season and during offseason
During season we are talking about
- improving stamina
- aggression
- recovery from heavy cardiac load
- recovery from muscular trauma
-> All PED's who do that are either far to lengthy to administrate (EPO, blood transfusion), or far to easily detected (oral steroids, waterbased steroids, beta 2 antagonists, amphetamines, andrenogen receptor antagonists)
Off season :
- Improving fatfree mass and muscular strenght
- Improving recovery from injury
Without whereabouts or random testing times, this is possible with short cycles of short estered PED's. Real Madrid is rather suspect of having done this with both Ronaldo and Bale.
Altho it seems like a gigantic risk to do this.
That's BS. You can easily micro-dose EPO and they don't even do biological passports testing in football (like they do in cycling) which is the most effective way of catching blood-doping. They barely do blood testing in football. Do some research if you don't believe me. The reason footballers don't get caught is because the testing in football is a joke. Not because it's too risky to dope.
Go and read one of the books from the cyclists who used to blood dope and do EPO. They'll tell you how they got past the testing in cycling which for years have been more stringent than in football (and they were still getting away with it)
Go and read one of the books from the cyclists who used to blood dope and do EPO. They'll tell you how they got past the testing in cycling which for years have been more stringent than in football (and they were still getting away with it)
Tone down your attitude. Answer me this question.
- Androgenic steroids in allmost all shapes and forms are financially reasonable and easily obtained for the common guy.
- Erythropoetine is absurdly expensive. And nearly impossible to obtain
- Football completely pisses away cycling in terms of revenue and turnover
Cyclists cant use steroids to boost their hematocrit levels, so they used EPO first. That became easily to detect via specific markers. So they switched to the even more expensive blood enrichment, filtering and storage followed by transfusion. So then they added biological passports, in order to be able to detect blood transfusions.
Injecting EPO is simple. Enriching blood is not. You need to administer a person EPO and have him perform altitude training or hypoxia sprinting to increase his hematocrit levels just below 50 vol% and max out his 2.3 BPG. Then you filter it through a dialisys while administering various minerals and neccecary elements while filtering out others. This blood will be stored for transfusion later
Cyclists who do blood doping, use this blood in transfusions through a tour.
As said above. you use biological passports to detect these transfusions.
- FIFA/UEFA use 16,000 tests/year on urine AND blood
- They can much more easily finance biological passports compared to UCI. But they dont.
Question.
What is the reason UEFA/FIFA obviously arent using biological passports ?
Which football club was accused of administering EPO to its players, but when raided the police found ALOT, except EPO ?
Why isnt a single football player ever testing positive for EPO, but nearly always amphetamines or nadrolone ?
- Androgenic steroids in allmost all shapes and forms are financially reasonable and easily obtained for the common guy.
- Erythropoetine is absurdly expensive. And nearly impossible to obtain
- Football completely pisses away cycling in terms of revenue and turnover
Cyclists cant use steroids to boost their hematocrit levels, so they used EPO first. That became easily to detect via specific markers. So they switched to the even more expensive blood enrichment, filtering and storage followed by transfusion. So then they added biological passports, in order to be able to detect blood transfusions.
Injecting EPO is simple. Enriching blood is not. You need to administer a person EPO and have him perform altitude training or hypoxia sprinting to increase his hematocrit levels just below 50 vol% and max out his 2.3 BPG. Then you filter it through a dialisys while administering various minerals and neccecary elements while filtering out others. This blood will be stored for transfusion later
Cyclists who do blood doping, use this blood in transfusions through a tour.
As said above. you use biological passports to detect these transfusions.
- FIFA/UEFA use 16,000 tests/year on urine AND blood
- They can much more easily finance biological passports compared to UCI. But they dont.
Question.
What is the reason UEFA/FIFA obviously arent using biological passports ?
Which football club was accused of administering EPO to its players, but when raided the police found ALOT, except EPO ?
Why isnt a single football player ever testing positive for EPO, but nearly always amphetamines or nadrolone ?
You didn't address the fact that the testing in football is ridiculous. In the EPL for example (which I'm sure are far more stringent than what goes on Italy) there were 799 samples taken in the 15/16 season. Mostly urine. There are 550 players in the EPL. So players are lucky if they're tested once a season. So, why are players not getting caught? Because there is no testing
And it's not even worth talking about La Liga where there were only 57 drug tests last season. So as I said. There is no good reason for footballers to not dope because there is almost no chance they'll be caught
As for why do footballers never test positive for EPO. Because about 1-2 per cent of drug testing in football involve blood testing. The vast majority is piss tests
And it's not even worth talking about La Liga where there were only 57 drug tests last season. So as I said. There is no good reason for footballers to not dope because there is almost no chance they'll be caught
As for why do footballers never test positive for EPO. Because about 1-2 per cent of drug testing in football involve blood testing. The vast majority is piss tests
- Biological passports arent used, because of the sheer amount of blood you'd need to enrich and store
- EPO has a halflife of just 5 houres. But to have an effect, you need to consistantly keep taking it. Not a silly microdose, but actual serious amounts. You only take it to boost hematocryt levels, its dose related. If player use it, they would start failing doping tests regularly
- You can detect EPO usage in urine
-Microdosing illegal EPO is less effective than systematic usage of non steroidal anti inflammatories(NSAID)
Juventus got raided in the 90ties. We were accused of EPO. None was found. But Agricola had an gigantically impressive pharmacy of NSAID's and substances that reduce or controll tissue inflammation.
All these were legal, but many were supposed to be perscription only.
Football is 90% brain, good physical condition, and good recovery. Aggression and strenght can help, which is why the main PED remains nadrolone family. The main drug they use, is what any serious athlete uses : As much NSAID's as neccecary.
- EPO has a halflife of just 5 houres. But to have an effect, you need to consistantly keep taking it. Not a silly microdose, but actual serious amounts. You only take it to boost hematocryt levels, its dose related. If player use it, they would start failing doping tests regularly
- You can detect EPO usage in urine
-Microdosing illegal EPO is less effective than systematic usage of non steroidal anti inflammatories(NSAID)
Juventus got raided in the 90ties. We were accused of EPO. None was found. But Agricola had an gigantically impressive pharmacy of NSAID's and substances that reduce or controll tissue inflammation.
All these were legal, but many were supposed to be perscription only.
Football is 90% brain, good physical condition, and good recovery. Aggression and strenght can help, which is why the main PED remains nadrolone family. The main drug they use, is what any serious athlete uses : As much NSAID's as neccecary.
