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dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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I notice that in my abscence here, this forum has turned several more people in to peasant filth

Why did Mandzukic play ?


We like to focus with the width on the connection with Ronaldo but also alot of those long vertical passes. If you play Dybala, they put a CDM on him and both CB's have the sandwich on Ronaldo.

Mandzukic on the other hand. You need to put a CB on him or we redirect all long passes to him instead. Both CB's won most of the duels with Mandzukic


Both CB's also got shafted by Ronaldo on two goals because they had to watch Mandzukic too.

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Yep. And while Godin, the best heading CB in decades, was beeing his kryptonite, Ronaldo headed in a brace.


How happy is godin now about beeing some shitty metal thats out of the CL ?
Everybody knows his role and what he is supposed to do. Apart from being a physical presence in the box (which he is), he is supposed to be able to hold up the ball, and contribute with goals of his own (which he does not at the moment).
If all he can do as be a physical presence in the box, to take a beating so Ronaldo gets extra room, then you can get the same output from Kean, with the added bonus of having a player that can actually make runs behind the defense.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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I don't think bad form was a factor yesterday. He was simply outplayed and beaten like never before. For 180 minutes vs Atletico, he was losing air duels and wasn't even allowed to make a jump. He didn't jump or move differently, he didn't run less, he was just outplayed and destroyed.
No other team can do this, so he's gonna be one of the vital players from now on.
 

JCK

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I don't think bad form was a factor yesterday. He was simply outplayed and beaten like never before. For 180 minutes vs Atletico, he was losing air duels and wasn't even allowed to make a jump. He didn't jump or move differently, he didn't run less, he was just outplayed and destroyed.
No other team can do this, so he's gonna be one of the vital players from now on.
But his presence freed up Ronaldo and Bernardeschi. No other player would have contributed the way he did.
 

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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I don't think bad form was a factor yesterday. He was simply outplayed and beaten like never before. For 180 minutes vs Atletico, he was losing air duels and wasn't even allowed to make a jump. He didn't jump or move differently, he didn't run less, he was just outplayed and destroyed.
No other team can do this, so he's gonna be one of the vital players from now on.
He barely even attempted to win any air duels. Does that sound like Mandzukic to you? He clearly was playing through some sort of injury. Even so, he still dragged Godin away from Ronaldo.
 

dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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He barely even attempted to win any air duels. Does that sound like Mandzukic to you? He clearly was playing through some sort of injury. Even so, he still dragged Godin away from Ronaldo.
He did not drag Godín away from Ronaldo. Do people really think that Atletico forgot about one of the greatest strikers who ever lived to double up on Mandzu. Or could it perhaps be that Ronaldo has a 1,5m vertikal jump and he is impossible to mark.
All Mandzu did was provide an extra body in the box, a job all physical strikers could do. Apart from that he lost almost all duels he went into, and lost the ball multiple times.

He have not scored a goal in 3 months, in general looks like the weakest link in almost all our games, and people keeps praising him on Tuz, and apparently I am the one who is unable to have an objective conversation about the guy.
 

Gzuz

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Dec 1, 2015
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He did not drag Godín away from Ronaldo. Do people really think that Atletico forgot about one of the greatest strikers who ever lived to double up on Mandzu. Or could it perhaps be that Ronaldo has a 1,5m vertikal jump and he is impossible to mark.
All Mandzu did was provide an extra body in the box, a job all physical strikers could do. Apart from that he lost almost all duels he went into, and lost the ball multiple times.

He have not scored a goal in 3 months, in general looks like the weakest link in almost all our games, and people keeps praising him on Tuz, and apparently I am the one who is unable to have an objective conversation about the guy.
Watch the first goal. Where is Godin?
 

tvrtko

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Mar 14, 2019
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I think that if the team was to play without Mandzu, it would be a lot harder to put the same amount of pressure on their backline (regarding crosses and headers in the box at least). I don't know how Atletico set their defense up, but it appeared to me that Godin was on Mandzu most of the time - and even if Mario had a bad performance it definitelly freed up Ronaldo. It's also reasonable to say that this might have been Allegri's plan.

Imo, if Dybala played instead of Mandzu, Godin would 100% be on Ronaldo the whole time (unless he goes wide). Also regarding just physical presence and aerial threat in the box, Kean comes no where near Mandzu. From what we've seen from Kean so far, I think he'd be great against teams that put pressure and play attacking football. He'd be great at disrupting midfields, counter attacks and creating chances for himself by overruning one or two defenders - very explosive and strong on the run.
 
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I don't want to see him play for a few games and I am not buying the "creates space" thing, naturally a striker has to move and create space for midfielders and other strikers, that's the very least a striker can do. He has been sitting on the wing for half the second half until he got substituted. If he doesn't get his shit together soon, we need to have a serious look at the striker position this summer.
 

K.O.

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Nov 24, 2005
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He's having a tough period no doubt, but he was scoring and assisting plenty in the 1st half of the season. I'm pretty sure he's the least of our problems.

Rest him for a couple of games and play Kean.
 

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