Mario Mandžukić (111 Viewers)

[Fr3sh]

He would need training of course, but u are wrong in a couple of things.
His passing is better than the average DM monkey. Positioning? he always has been everywhere tackling anyone who comes close when on his day. He is one of the most tireless players we have. IN the CL final he was injured s thats not a good example.

See, i really dont like him as a CF because if eel Higuain is way better, and as LW...remember we used him there because of his tactical contribution, not exactly because he was lighting ablaze the world as a winger. What was his contribution? keeping things tight with his defensive capabilities and being a focal point for longballs.

He hustles and tackles better than lemina, rincon and sturaro put together...and he would be king of 50-50 balls in the middle of the park. In fact he would have to run less this time because we will have like 4 players in front of him doing the runs...who are quicker and with a psique for that.

I know this suggestion sounds weird as fuck because his main role is a CF... but he is so good bullying people, being a commander on the field.

If you think about it, in the last 2 seasons he has not been stellar because of his goal tally, but because how good he defended as a CF or LW, he pressed the fuck out of everyone. There were games he played as a CF, but he was doing goal line clearances and tackling people near Bonucci, i mean w t f?.
Think about it. He would not let anyone get close to pjanic. Tactically he would adapt for sure since it seems he gets thing quick and has the experience for that. He loves the physical game, he lives for it nowadays, and he is a very intimidating presence.

He'll be the closest thing to Vidal, I'd slap him in the midfield next to Pjanic no hesitation.

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And he'll have 17 goals 9 assist, and highest amount of tackles, and near perfect passing accuracy.

 

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[Xperd]

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[ADP1897]

Dudes got none of the qualities. He doesnt run enough, is not fast enough on his feet, nor technical. His passing is nothing special and I doubt his positioning and tactical awareness

Srsly?
You are questioning tactical awareness of an CF who playing as an winger at the middle of season?
Not fast enough to cover flanks maybe, tell me how fast the likes of Matic and other DM was?
Dont run enough😆
Technical maybe..
Positioning was granted, because we rarely seen a player converted CF to an DM.

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[juve103423]

Srsly?
You are questioning tactical awareness of an CF who playing as an winger at the middle of season?
Not fast enough to cover flanks maybe, tell me how fast the likes of Matic and other DM was?
Dont run enough😆
Technical maybe..
Positioning was granted, because we rarely seen a player converted CF to an DM.

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So because he was moved from CF to LW due to injuries and other circumstances, then we assume he is tactically gifted, got great positioning and did well? What metrics do we use when we say he did well?
He scored a random lucky goal in the final and did an overall okay emergency cover of our LW.
And yes, he doesn't run much, in fact, the least after Bonucci. He is not an agile player who can throw himself into tackles with high accuracy and timing as trained DMs do. He sometimes got back and made important interceptions, which were all applauded efforts as we think it is amazing seeing a natural CF do that, so here the hype starts. And he is verbal, tall, controversial, things all fans like to see. However it has nothing to do with output, fighting/running. We don't notice when Cuadrado regularly tracks back. Cuadrados defensive contribution was much higher, as well as his attacking threat. Mandzukic received a lot of high balls and did a lot of flick ons and backpasses. That's a fairly simple task for a player. We cant afford having a player only contrituting with those skills. Not at DM, neither at LW. He will be backup for Higuain/Dybala, with 2 natural wingers providing danger and support. Lets wait and see.

 

[pitbull]

So because he was moved from CF to LW due to injuries and other circumstances, then we assume he is tactically gifted, got great positioning and did well? What metrics do we use when we say he did well?
He scored a random lucky goal in the final and did an overall okay emergency cover of our LW.
And yes, he doesn't run much, in fact, the least after Bonucci. He is not an agile player who can throw himself into tackles with high accuracy and timing as trained DMs do. He sometimes got back and made important interceptions, which were all applauded efforts as we think it is amazing seeing a natural CF do that, so here the hype starts. And he is verbal, tall, controversial, things all fans like to see. However it has nothing to do with output, fighting/running. We don't notice when Cuadrado regularly tracks back. Cuadrados defensive contribution was much higher, as well as his attacking threat. Mandzukic received a lot of high balls and did a lot of flick ons and backpasses. That's a fairly simple task for a player. We cant afford having a player only contrituting with those skills. Not at DM, neither at LW. He will be backup for Higuain/Dybala, with 2 natural wingers providing danger and support. Lets wait and see.

It's not possible for Mandžukič to be backup, he always finds his way back into starting 11

 

[Xperd]

He had an excellent last year and was key in making the 4-2-3-1 with his work rate and physicality but he was still at the end of the day a makeshift winger and for a wing position ideally if you want to build on the 4-2-3-1, we need different characteristics such as pace, dribbling , crossing which Mandzukic provides none of.
When you have Alves and Mandzukic on the wings and Dybala wandering somewhere at the half way line, it's obvious Higuain is going to be isolated and struggle.

This is precisely why we're buying two wingers to make the team/offense much more dynamic just like the other big teams.

For all of Mandzukic's physicality and work rate, I think our flanks are better served if we have players who can take on defenders and/or putting in incisive crosses into the box.

As I said, he slowly needs to be phased out and become a backup/rotation player.

 

[bongraider]

yep but if he plays like a crazed mofo all the time and makes the formation work, it's hard to keep him as a backup.

 

[pitbull]

yep but if he plays like a crazed mofo all the time and makes the formation work, it's hard to keep him as a backup.

 

[ADP1897]

So because he was moved from CF to LW due to injuries and other circumstances, then we assume he is tactically gifted, got great positioning and did well? What metrics do we use when we say he did well?
He scored a random lucky goal in the final and did an overall okay emergency cover of our LW.
And yes, he doesn't run much, in fact, the least after Bonucci. He is not an agile player who can throw himself into tackles with high accuracy and timing as trained DMs do. He sometimes got back and made important interceptions, which were all applauded efforts as we think it is amazing seeing a natural CF do that, so here the hype starts. And he is verbal, tall, controversial, things all fans like to see. However it has nothing to do with output, fighting/running. We don't notice when Cuadrado regularly tracks back. Cuadrados defensive contribution was much higher, as well as his attacking threat. Mandzukic received a lot of high balls and did a lot of flick ons and backpasses. That's a fairly simple task for a player. We cant afford having a player only contrituting with those skills. Not at DM, neither at LW. He will be backup for Higuain/Dybala, with 2 natural wingers providing danger and support. Lets wait and see.

We say he did great, because he actually did great, any anyone who have no agendas against him would say the same.

Well if player could change his position, isn't that mean that they have atleast tactical awareness, even a little?

I never said he should play as DM, but isn't that you who underrate Mandzu?

Random lucky goal😆
Let's just agree to disagree, he already paved his way in Bayern, and Juve, even do that for a while at Atletico.

But hey manzo only do simple task, so he didn't deserve the credit.

He had an excellent last year and was key in making the 4-2-3-1 with his work rate and physicality but he was still at the end of the day a makeshift winger and for a wing position ideally if you want to build on the 4-2-3-1, we need different characteristics such as pace, dribbling , crossing which Mandzukic provides none of.
When you have Alves and Mandzukic on the wings and Dybala wandering somewhere at the half way line, it's obvious Higuain is going to be isolated and struggle.

This is precisely why we're buying two wingers to make the team/offense much more dynamic just like the other big teams.

For all of Mandzukic's physicality and work rate, I think our flanks are better served if we have players who can take on defenders and/or putting in incisive crosses into the box.

As I said, he slowly needs to be phased out and become a backup/rotation player.

I'm all for competition for starting line up, and yes, this Juve would benefit more with an actual Winger instead of Mandzo as LW. Need to sort the mids situation to make it more balanced/worked though.

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[Zacheryah]

So because he was moved from CF to LW due to injuries and other circumstances, then we assume he is tactically gifted, got great positioning and did well? What metrics do we use when we say he did well?
He scored a random lucky goal in the final and did an overall okay emergency cover of our LW.
And yes, he doesn't run much, in fact, the least after Bonucci. He is not an agile player who can throw himself into tackles with high accuracy and timing as trained DMs do. He sometimes got back and made important interceptions, which were all applauded efforts as we think it is amazing seeing a natural CF do that, so here the hype starts. And he is verbal, tall, controversial, things all fans like to see. However it has nothing to do with output, fighting/running. We don't notice when Cuadrado regularly tracks back. Cuadrados defensive contribution was much higher, as well as his attacking threat. Mandzukic received a lot of high balls and did a lot of flick ons and backpasses. That's a fairly simple task for a player. We cant afford having a player only contrituting with those skills. Not at DM, neither at LW. He will be backup for Higuain/Dybala, with 2 natural wingers providing danger and support. Lets wait and see.

roflmao

most valuable player was "some backup"

 

[DAiDEViL]

Dudes got none of the qualities. He doesnt run enough, is not fast enough on his feet, nor technical. His passing is nothing special and I doubt his positioning and tactical awareness

You should start watching Juventus games before you write such nonsense.

 

[Hydde]

He is tireless most of the time.

 

[Wittl]

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[juve103423]

You should start watching Juventus games before you write such nonsense.

You should start thinking critically and not just talk bullshit to raise your post count and be 'popular' in here. Just because you notice Mandzukic a lot in a match doesnt mean he is actually covering distance or working hard.

I looked at the numbers at the end of the season and Mario runs a lot less than his team mates. So it surprises me that he get so much credit for his amazing workrate. I cant find the site with a 'distance covered' stat right now, if anyone can, please check it or throw a link here.

 

[Fr3sh]

We should try him in Bonucci's position

 

[juve103423]

roflmao

most valuable player was "some backup"

No way Mario was our MVP last season, if that is what you imply? rolfmao
He was a valuable filler to the team, a Padoin V2. Made us play our best formation without loosing too much quality. We need those Padoins and Sturaros next season too, so he wont complain!

 

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[Snobist]

#noGood is the best! As someone else said he will find his way to first XI!

 

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[Zzak]

I'd like it if we didn't bought any more defenders and relied only on Rugani and the BBC.
And if shit got bad...we send Mandzukic as CB.
Wouldn't that be a sight