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Must be bought. It seems he's finally beaten these knee issues, and he's still only 22. Quality player and can play his part for us over the years.
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Mario Lemina (10 Viewers)
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Must be bought. It seems he's finally beaten these knee issues, and he's still only 22. Quality player and can play his part for us over the years.
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Agreed. Like seeing very few minutes of a young player and already concluding that he is better from a top established player.
We all want our young players to turn out to be gems. Thats why Inter fans got overly excited when Santon had a good game against Ronaldo and we got excited when De Ceglie terrorized Milan. We get carried away when a young player nets an impressive goal or has an impressive performance. We should wait, be patient and give the kid a long run of games before making a judgment. No one will be happier than me if he becomes as good as Khedira if not better. Who wouldn't want another pogba? Even if every single showing the kid had was as impressive (which is not the case), I would still say its too early to judge him as better from Khedira.
Sturaro had a much longer run of very good performances in big and small games but because he didn't score a flashy goal, no one said he is already better than Khedira. Lemina has to do better than sturaro first before comparing him to a top player like Khedira.
We all want our young players to turn out to be gems. Thats why Inter fans got overly excited when Santon had a good game against Ronaldo and we got excited when De Ceglie terrorized Milan. We get carried away when a young player nets an impressive goal or has an impressive performance. We should wait, be patient and give the kid a long run of games before making a judgment. No one will be happier than me if he becomes as good as Khedira if not better. Who wouldn't want another pogba? Even if every single showing the kid had was as impressive (which is not the case), I would still say its too early to judge him as better from Khedira.
Sturaro had a much longer run of very good performances in big and small games but because he didn't score a flashy goal, no one said he is already better than Khedira. Lemina has to do better than sturaro first before comparing him to a top player like Khedira.
Lemina got plenty of playing time early in the season to judge what kind of player he is, or at least see the talent he possesses. It's not one game. It's not a couple of minutes. And I rate Lemina ahead of Sturaro, who I also love. He does everything Sturaro does, but he's much better on the ball. I wanted Lemina ever since I saw him play vs Juve in preseason when he bossed Pogba and our entire midfield. Maybe I'm biased. I just think his ceiling is immense.
Yeah I am, in the first 4-5 games I saw of Lemina before his injury, I defenitely see a better player then Sturaro, someone that can grow into something better. While Sturaro has aggressive and has fighting spirit, but I find his overall package lacking/limited to become more then the role he has now. And it has nothing to do with goals, both scored fine goals (infact Sturaro has shown he has the mettle for big games in terms of attitude). Its all about defensive work which I find Lemina more consistently capable at (his strength and speed and strong tackling ability looked like someone who could cover/clean up big area), and to not squander possession/be comfortable on the ball, which Lemina is also more reassuring at. Sturaro is a pitbull terrier, but plays like one that is leashed, he hounds anyone close to him but doesnt seem to cover that much area and is not too equipped to be poised with the ball technically, seems nervous in games we hold most possession (tho he has good crosses).
Playing more games doesnt make you a better player, especially when that is mainly due to a long term injury. Lets hope Lemina can look as defensively intense and tidy player on the ball as he looked in the beginning. Right now its just one good goal, too soon to talk if he recovered enough from injury, will need time, like Pereyra does.
Playing more games doesnt make you a better player, especially when that is mainly due to a long term injury. Lets hope Lemina can look as defensively intense and tidy player on the ball as he looked in the beginning. Right now its just one good goal, too soon to talk if he recovered enough from injury, will need time, like Pereyra does.
No way man. The goal is the only bright thing I have seen from him so far. Other than that it is a lot of short safe passes and some defensive aggression. If he hadn't scored the goal, I'd have had no idea that he can attack better than sturaro.
Sturaro have shown defensive solidity, an ability give simple short passes and lots of grinta without a bad temper. My impression of Lemina was that he too is a destroyer but with more aggression and a bad temper. I see them both as similar types of players but in sturaro we have seen consistency over a large period of time and in many big games.
This goes back to my earlier point which is we have not seen enough of Lemina in terms of game time yet. It is obvious that his short stint has given us different impressions of his basic skills. My impression is that he would be a more violent and less consistent sturaro. Yours is that he is closer to a vidal type of player. We will have to wait and see. I have no idea how anyone can be confident about how he will pan out yet.
Khedira is ofcourse on another level and is first team material.
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Players grow with game time man and with game time we also get to see what qualities he has and how consistently he can bring it to the table.
Sturaro have shown defensive solidity, an ability give simple short passes and lots of grinta without a bad temper. My impression of Lemina was that he too is a destroyer but with more aggression and a bad temper. I see them both as similar types of players but in sturaro we have seen consistency over a large period of time and in many big games.
This goes back to my earlier point which is we have not seen enough of Lemina in terms of game time yet. It is obvious that his short stint has given us different impressions of his basic skills. My impression is that he would be a more violent and less consistent sturaro. Yours is that he is closer to a vidal type of player. We will have to wait and see. I have no idea how anyone can be confident about how he will pan out yet.
Khedira is ofcourse on another level and is first team material.
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Players grow with game time man and with game time we also get to see what qualities he has and how consistently he can bring it to the table.
I dont rate Lemina better offensively, but as an overall midfielder. Saying he is better at keeping possession or winning it doesnt mean I think he is good enough box to box, they both scored similar amount of goals and dont expect much improvement offensively in direct goals. Only that from what I seen of both, Lemina distributes the ball with more assurances and is less likely to lose it, not that either of them are box to box maestroes. And its entirely up to how you rate Sturaro, and I dont all that much, so saying someone is better then him doesnt mean I think they are the shit (did not compare him to Khedira for obvious reasons, tho Sami's defensive input and lack of speed/aggression is troubling). More of finding a more encouraging and dynamic qualities in Lemina for sure. Mainly as DM or ballwinning CM.
Also I dont get the bad temper bit for Juve, he is super aggressive and it was mainly shown in his first game vs Genoa where he was making last ditch tackles, tho they worked and confidently performed were close calls for someone who has yellow card. But in general he tackles/plays with the kind of aggression you need and seems to be in control. Not overly adventorous player with the ball or when winning it.
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True, and Sturaro has gotten alot of opportunities and on consistent basis shown me he is not someone who can fight for a starting spot due to his limited attributes but is fine/decent as squad player. Mainly on the ball, but also that in winning it, he tends to not cover much ground but resctricts his strong aggression to just whatever thats close by, chases hard at times but not in a way that has a significant or imposing impact in the game. Has good physicality and fighting spirit, but if your overall qualities isnt well rounded enough dont see much room for growth etc (his kind of phycality and qualities would fit well for wing or fullback actually). While the sole reason I rate Lemina higher his skillset defenitely seems more complete. Strong/fast plus comfortable with the ball (dribbling or finding simple solutions) and has the nose of how and when to win possession. Obviously very raw and erratic but still see enough promise to grow to something better.
Also I dont get the bad temper bit for Juve, he is super aggressive and it was mainly shown in his first game vs Genoa where he was making last ditch tackles, tho they worked and confidently performed were close calls for someone who has yellow card. But in general he tackles/plays with the kind of aggression you need and seems to be in control. Not overly adventorous player with the ball or when winning it.
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True, and Sturaro has gotten alot of opportunities and on consistent basis shown me he is not someone who can fight for a starting spot due to his limited attributes but is fine/decent as squad player. Mainly on the ball, but also that in winning it, he tends to not cover much ground but resctricts his strong aggression to just whatever thats close by, chases hard at times but not in a way that has a significant or imposing impact in the game. Has good physicality and fighting spirit, but if your overall qualities isnt well rounded enough dont see much room for growth etc (his kind of phycality and qualities would fit well for wing or fullback actually). While the sole reason I rate Lemina higher his skillset defenitely seems more complete. Strong/fast plus comfortable with the ball (dribbling or finding simple solutions) and has the nose of how and when to win possession. Obviously very raw and erratic but still see enough promise to grow to something better.
