Mario Götze - AM - Bayern Munich (7 Viewers)

[Fr3sh]

Look at you. Sucking the proverbial management's cock at every given opportunity. You used to be better than this. What the fuck happened to you? Drinking too much of that blind optimism delusion juice?

Is what they do man.

 

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[thirteen]

the grapes arent sweet anyway, why get em

To make salad.

 

[Bianconero81]

They've won 4 scudetti in a row, reached the CL final and up to this season have had an excellent transfer policy. The season hasn't even started and you're already bitching about what they may have done wrong. It's blind pessimism from your part, not blind optimism from his.

Same old BS spewed by the apologists. I am not arguing with the policy, but why rush and sell for that fucking price? It seems to me that we are just desperate to offload him as much as he wants to leave.

Even if a player wishes to leave, we don't have to bend over backwards and grant them their wish. They are bound by a fucking contract after all. We can tell them, we will let you leave, but give us time, and the offer has to be fair to us as well.

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So instead of blindly following the management (which has given us year on year improvement and fantastic results over four years) we should death-ride every single move they make and proclaim doom and gloom?

No. I never said that I am in favor in investing in potential (although I am totally against the amount we paid for Zaza, and underselling Vidal), but when selling one of your established stars (or losing 3 as is the case this summer), you need to replace them with like for like. You can't replace star quality and experience with potential.

 

[Seven]

Same old BS spewed by the apologists. I am not arguing with the policy, but why rush and sell for that fucking price? It seems to me that we are just desperate to offload him as much as he wants to leave.

Even if a player wishes to leave, we don't have to bend over backwards and grant them their wish. They are bound by a fucking contract after all. We can tell them, we will let you leave, but give us time, and the offer has to be fair to us as well.

The apologists? What am I apologising exactly? The 4 scudetti or the CL final?

Also, we bought Vidal for 10.5 million and are selling him for 36. He was 24 when we got him and is now 28. To me this sounds like good business.

 

[Fr3sh]

I think we should stop mentioning the CL final, it has been yet just another disappointment and we shouldn't treat an appearance in the CL final like winning the damn trophy.

 

[Seven]

I think we should stop mentioning the CL final, it has been yet just another disappointment and we shouldn't treat an appearance in the CL final like winning the damn trophy.

Goddammit. It's about what it represents. Bar one game, we won everything we could have possibly won last season. If that's not a good season, I don't know what is.

 

[Albo]

if we sold Vidal in the correct way, we could have easily got this guy

Correct way

He wanted to leave,so Marotta sold him,problem with Goetze is he wants to stay there ,it's not like Bayern won't consider him to be sold,it seems he doesn't want to move,are you suggesting

if we sold Vidal in the correct way, we could have easily got this guy

Correct way ?

He wanted to leave,so Marotta sold him,problem with Goetze is he wants to stay there ,it's not like Bayern won't consider him to be sold,it seems he doesn't want to move,so I don't have idea how should "correct way" be.

 

[Red]

I think we should stop mentioning the CL final, it has been yet just another disappointment and we shouldn't treat an appearance in the CL final like winning the damn trophy.

Given how long people kept going on about Juve's CL failures (Galatasaray and losing to arguably the best team of the last decade), I don't think it is unreasonable to keep mentioning that Juve did rather well in the CL last season.

 

[Bianconero81]

The apologists? What am I apologising exactly? The 4 scudetti or the CL final?

Also, we bought Vidal for 10.5 million and are selling him for 36. He was 24 when we got him and is now 28. To me this sounds like good business.

Yaaay. The CL Final, that we lost, yet again. It is a fucking final, not a trophy.

Going by your logic, if we sell Llorente for 8 million it's great business, since we bought him for free. Perhaps getting 30 million for Pogba is also great business, since we got him for free as well

 

[Seven]

Yaaay. The CL Final, that we lost, yet again. It is a fucking final, not a trophy.

Going by your logic, if we sell Llorente for 8 million it's great business, since we bought him for free. Perhaps getting 30 million for Pogba is also great business, since we got him for free as well

Wow. I find it incredible that I am able to refrain from throwing personal insults at you after this. I've made real progress. Of course you are on my ignore list now. Stuff like this cannot go unpunished.

 

[Red]

Going by your logic, if we sell Llorente for 8 million it's great business,...

There would be a lot of people around here who would be in no position to criticise selling Llorente for 8m, given just how low an opinion many people have of him.

 

[juvefan]

Why dont we go for Verratti instead?

 

[Bianconero81]

Wow. I find it incredible that I am able to refrain from throwing personal insults at you after this. I've made real progress. Of course you are on my ignore list now. Stuff like this cannot go unpunished.

Good for you buddy. Would you like a and perhaps some milk to go with it?

 

[Fr3sh]

Goddammit. It's about what it represents. Bar one game, we won everything we could have possibly won last season. If that's not a good season, I don't know what is.

It's been a fantastic season! It's like basically having the perfect dinner and about to cut the perfect cake, then you drop the fucking cake. That's what it was, we dropped the goddamn cake, sure the dinner was great but we fucked up on the damn cake!!

 

[Seven]

It's been a fantastic season! It's like basically having the perfect dinner and about to cut the perfect cake, then you drop the fucking cake. That's what it was, we dropped the goddamn cake, sure the dinner was great but we fucked up on the damn cake!!

Yes, but that happens. You can't base our entire transfer policy on that and you can't criticise the board because we lost the CL final. We did excellent. And have been doing well for 4 years.

 

[Bianconero81]

There would be a lot of people around here who would be in no position to criticise selling Llorente for 8m, given just how low an opinion many people have of him.

I'm not his biggest fan either, but in this inflated market, anything less than 10 million for a player of his stature is a bad deal.

 

[Fr3sh]

Given how long people kept going on about Juve's CL failures (Galatasaray and losing to arguably the best team of the last decade), I don't think it is unreasonable to keep mentioning that Juve did rather well in the CL last season.

We punched above our weight and got a good amount of luck, we were basically one healthy Modric away from elimination.

 

[Lapa]

I think we should stop mentioning the CL final, it has been yet just another disappointment and we shouldn't treat an appearance in the CL final like winning the damn trophy.

This =

 

[Seven]

We punched above our weight and got a good amount of luck, we were basically one healthy Modric away from elimination.

That's BS. We had an excellent side. Sure, we weren't particularly unlucky when playing Real Madrid, but at that level it's so close you need luck to win it.

 

[Red]

It's been a fantastic season! It's like basically having the perfect dinner and about to cut the perfect cake, then you drop the fucking cake. That's what it was, we dropped the goddamn cake, sure the dinner was great but we fucked up on the damn cake!!

Juve didn't drop the cake.

There was one cake left and a customer at another table, who was richer and in a stronger position to get the cake, managed to beat Juve to it.