Manuel Locatelli - DM - Sassuolo (13 Viewers)
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no wonder his sign on fee was Raiola esque
Although you’re right in saying that once you leave Juventus on loan, the odds of coming back are pretty slim. We’re a particular case in that regard, sadly enough.
But what you’re saying in terms of training or playing is wrong. We’ve learned that lessons already years ago with Marrone. Players develop by many reasons but in particular the most important are: playing, playing on a suited level, and good coaching. Besides that there are the mental aspects and talent obviously, bus let’s take that for granted for the sake of the discussion.
If we take a recent example with Fagioli and Rovella; the first more talented and training with the big ones, the other less talented but played 20 Serie A games. Who would’ve developed more this year? This whole situation made Fagioli not playing for Italy U21 at the Euro’s aswel and the U23 games which he played were below level, as he probably missed match fitness. So to answer my own question, Rovella developed more. Fagioli basically missed a important year.
Just training will never be enough, young guys have to play in order to gain more experience and improve their skills. There’s indeed a risk of loaning players as those clubs aren’t obligated to use them every week, so a good solution has to be found (hence the U23 team). Besides that there’s something fundamentally wrong at Juventus in this regard and they should change that conservative mentality.
It will be interesting to see what this club will do, because we basically have 3 midfielders who followed a different way within this club and a decision should be made this summer:
- Fagioli: played mostly for U19, and has numerous games for U23, but has spent a year training with the senior squad, didn’t play much this season
- Ranocchia: full season U19, followed by a full season U23, played as much as possible in Serie C
- Rovella: bought for a high amount and loaned out, gained some Serie A experience
But what you’re saying in terms of training or playing is wrong. We’ve learned that lessons already years ago with Marrone. Players develop by many reasons but in particular the most important are: playing, playing on a suited level, and good coaching. Besides that there are the mental aspects and talent obviously, bus let’s take that for granted for the sake of the discussion.
If we take a recent example with Fagioli and Rovella; the first more talented and training with the big ones, the other less talented but played 20 Serie A games. Who would’ve developed more this year? This whole situation made Fagioli not playing for Italy U21 at the Euro’s aswel and the U23 games which he played were below level, as he probably missed match fitness. So to answer my own question, Rovella developed more. Fagioli basically missed a important year.
Just training will never be enough, young guys have to play in order to gain more experience and improve their skills. There’s indeed a risk of loaning players as those clubs aren’t obligated to use them every week, so a good solution has to be found (hence the U23 team). Besides that there’s something fundamentally wrong at Juventus in this regard and they should change that conservative mentality.
It will be interesting to see what this club will do, because we basically have 3 midfielders who followed a different way within this club and a decision should be made this summer:
- Fagioli: played mostly for U19, and has numerous games for U23, but has spent a year training with the senior squad, didn’t play much this season
- Ranocchia: full season U19, followed by a full season U23, played as much as possible in Serie C
- Rovella: bought for a high amount and loaned out, gained some Serie A experience
Exactly. If you have value and play for a lesser team you are going to start on a weekly basis.
If not you get benched and it's obvious that if you can't cut it for the Sasuolo or Genoa's of the world you certainly can't cut it for Juve.
The value, mentality, hard work and talent would shine through regardless of where you play and should be more obvious in a lesser team.
If not you get benched and it's obvious that if you can't cut it for the Sasuolo or Genoa's of the world you certainly can't cut it for Juve.
The value, mentality, hard work and talent would shine through regardless of where you play and should be more obvious in a lesser team.
That's what you said about Donnarumma
The extreme hype about Fagioli and Rovella is cute and sad at the same time. Locatelli shits on 'm both. Who cares if we lose one of them for a 23 year old Italian that fits an actual need for a change and with several years of Serie A experience...
Still, if we were to add one to the team next season, I'd prefer Rovella. He's obviously ahead in his development and could be useful right away. Fagioli is more of a question mark to us as fans as he never actually played at that level.
Still, if we were to add one to the team next season, I'd prefer Rovella. He's obviously ahead in his development and could be useful right away. Fagioli is more of a question mark to us as fans as he never actually played at that level.
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