Mafia 2020 v2 || The FANATIC (16 Viewers)

[Alen]

I don't know, let's think about all the Snobist-Alen-Chocolate combinations and make a decision. I'm inclined to go for Alen though.

I will need you to elaborate your thought process.
Explain the logic behind these two (considering everything that happened in this thread): I'm a G - Snobist is also a G / I'm a G - Snobist is a civilian (BG or whatever).

 

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[IliveForJuve]

How many Gs do you think are yet to vote?

Or did most of them already capitalize on the chance of voting Choco and blend in, provided he is a C.

 

[king Ale]

I may look like a fool later, but I'm 99.99999% sure that he is the BG, who is STILL afraid that he might be killed. He was excited that he got a good role and had to tell his best friends here - me (long story) and ALC.
Sending the role to two other players as a BG is extremely stupid. Being a C and saying he's a BG to two people is childish. And even more that he keeps saying he's the BG. If he was a C, why would he keep claiming to be the BG? Being a G and sending PMs to two players telling them he's the BG is most stupid of all, because one of me and ALC could have been the real BG.

Why would Matt lie?

 

[ALC]

Why would Matt lie?

he could be a G

 

[IliveForJuve]

Why would Matt lie?

There's only one reason. He could be a G that was investigated by the D and now is just trying to buy time/confuse everyone, I guess?

Or he's not lying.

 

[king Ale]

Since no one was blazed today, two scenarios are no longer valid:
1- Matt was investigated last night and this is why he came out to lie as the BG so he would get blazed rather than lynched
2- Snobist was investigated last night and this is why he came out to claim he's the BG

These cannot have happened. Or the D is an idiot who investigated either of the two last night but didn't blaze the liar today.

 

[ALC]

Since no one was blazed today, two scenarios are no longer valid:
1- Matt was investigated last night and this is why he came out to lie as the BG so he would get blazed rather than lynched
2- Snobist was investigated last night and this is why he came out to claim he's the BG

These cannot have happened. Or the D is an idiot who investigated either of the two last night but didn't blaze the liar today.

wait, the D can’t gun blaze any longer today?

 

[king Ale]

he could be a G

He'd lie only if he was investigated last night. He wouldn't do it unprovoked. If he'd been investigated, he would have been blazed today, right?
I don't think he was investigated and I don't think he's lying.

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wait, the D can’t gun blaze any longer today?

He can (instead of an investigation he can ask for the gun blaze option), but he hasn't and it's one hour to the deadline. What's the wait for?

 

[Mr Chocolate]

well it looks like im toast,
i said everything i needed to say yesterday, you will see once the votes come, since we won't know who the real BG is tomorrow, it will be another vote based on speculation, i don't know if its going to shift to Ale when i get revealed as a C, but me being a C does not mean she is a G at all, there is alot of fuckery in this game to a point where everyone could be a G.

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wait why would the D gunblaze today?

 

[Alen]

Why would Matt lie?

Matt is no plain C playing Sheik-like games with us. That means he has three possible roles, one of them probable, one possible and one pretty unlikely

1. He is a G.
- The BG is Snobist and I'm communicating with the BG. He knows I'm not a G. If the Gs did nothing, then the D would have made contact with Snobist already and a BG-D combo is deadly to the Gs. He knows who was investigated. If a C was investigated, then the D won't gun blaze tonight and if they whack him, the D is terminated for good. If it was a G, then the D will gunblaze the investigated G, but that G (especially if it was Matt) was gonna die anyway.

2. He is the BG
- He sees the thing with Snobist. He doesn't want to rush and that's why it took him a lot of time to say that he is the real BG. Nothing makes sense to him. He probably thinks that Snobist is just a plain C, but he's trying to figure out what is really happening. He is waiting for the D to do the job tonight.

3. He is the Detective.
- Veryyyy unlikely, but it might work if he makes the Gs think he's the BG and won't try to whack him. Especially if he investigated a G and after reading the thread realized who else might be G. This is a 1% possibility.

 

[Osman]

Since no one was blazed today, two scenarios are no longer valid:
1- Matt was investigated last night and this is why he came out to lie as the BG so he would get blazed rather than lynched
2- Snobist was investigated last night and this is why he came out to claim he's the BG

These cannot have happened. Or the D is an idiot who investigated either of the two last night but didn't blaze the liar today.

What makes you convinced the gunblaze would have to be used? It's more of last resort type deal, since it stops from you investigating.


As a D , if desperate, I would rather out myself as D and ask for protection, and keep investigating, then gunblaze, remain unprotected and not have investigation.

 

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Mr. Chocolate

why would you not vote for Snobist?

 

[IliveForJuve]

Is it a rule of thumb for the D to blaze after catching a G? Or is it possible the D is purposefully letting that G live to gather more info?

 

[campionesidd]

Why would Matt lie?
For one, most people believe he is the real BG because he is more experienced and reliable than Snobist.
If he's a G, he's essentially forced the detective to investigate one of Snobist and himself to buy crucial time for the Gs to lynch a couple of Cs, recruit and find the D. A gullible D might even believe Quetz outright and communicate with him directly and expose himself to the Gs.
At this point, I'm not sure who the real BG is, but I don't know why some people are so confident that Quetz is the real BG. We need to be open to both possibilities imo.

 

[kappa96]

He'd lie only if he was investigated last night. He wouldn't do it unprovoked. If he'd been investigated, he would have been blazed today, right?
I don't think he was investigated and I don't think he's lying.

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He can (instead of an investigation he can ask for the gun blaze option), but he hasn't and it's one hour to the deadline. What's the wait for?

Should be pointed out also that Matt did nothing suspicious yesterday that would warrant an investigation.
Hope this is going to eventually be sorted in the C's favor.

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[X Æ A-12]

Is it a rule of thumb for the D to blaze after catching a G? Or is it possible the D is purposefully letting that G live to gather more info?

imo gunblaze makes sense, in this situation, if its one of the people pretending to be the BG otherwise no.

 

[king Ale]

What makes you convinced the gunblaze would have to be used? It's more of last resort type deal, since it stops from you investigating.


As a D , if desperate, I would rather out myself as D and ask for protection, and keep investigating, then gunblaze, remain unprotected and not have investigation.

If you are a D and have a sure G (you investigated him last night), and this sure G claims to be the BG, you either blaze him or come out publicly. Neither has happened so far. From today's events, my conclusion is Matt/or Snobist was not investigated last night. This means that Matt, if a G, would have no reason to claim to be the BG. Hence he has to be the BG.

 

[Alen]

@Quetzalcoatl are you communicating in PMs with Snobist or the jailer? How did you know who is the jailer?

@Snobist, please don't reply to his PMs.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Why would Matt lie?
For one, most people believe he is the real BG because he is more experienced and reliable than Snobist.
If he's a G, he's essentially forced the detective to investigate one of Snobist and himself to buy crucial time for the Gs to lynch a couple of Cs, recruit and find the D. A gullible D might even believe Quetz outright and communicate with him directly and expose himself to the Gs.
At this point, I'm not sure who the real BG is, but I don't know why some people are so confident that Quetz is the real BG. We need to be open to both possibilities imo.

fair point. I think I somewhat assume Matt is because with Matt he is either telling the truth or he is a G. Snobist might be a normal C ffs.

I find it very unlikely that Matt was investigated yesterday and snobist regardless of real role doesnt have much trust here do to being erratic so i don't see why he would need to come out publicly unless he is the real BG.

at the moment, I believe Matt. I would think Snobist could be anything but what makes me suspicious is that i dont understand at all why Alen is so confident in Snobist being the BG? That situation seems awfully suspicious to me.

 

[king Ale]

Why would Matt lie?
For one, most people believe he is the real BG because he is more experienced and reliable than Snobist.
If he's a G, he's essentially forced the detective to investigate one of Snobist and himself to buy crucial time for the Gs to lynch a couple of Cs, recruit and find the D. A gullible D might even believe Quetz outright and communicate with him directly and expose himself to the Gs.
At this point, I'm not sure who the real BG is, but I don't know why some people are so confident that Quetz is the real BG. We need to be open to both possibilities imo.

If Matt is a G and he was not investigated last night, why would he make himself a suspect by claiming to be the BG? It makes no sense.