Mafia 2020 v2 || The FANATIC (19 Viewers)

[ALC]

Mr.chocolate

I’m also very suspicious of Tomice, he makes my spidey senses tingle!

need some updates from the BG btw, I personally think Matt is bluffing hoping the D reaches out to him instead of snobist. Or snobist has done more damage to the Albanian reputation. But Matt also lives in a tropical island, perfect breeding ground for bad pirates

 

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[Alen]

I'm just waiting on the results of the investigation and the gunblaise

You know the result of the investigation.
Your opinion as the BG is very important. Who do you think are the Gs? Since Snobist claimed to be the BG, that's probably him and also probably me and ALC. Or do you have others in mind?

 

[Ronn]

No new info since yesterday so I’m gonna stick with my choice: Snobist
His tomfoolery gives me more reasons than yesterday

 

[Alen]

No new info since yesterday so I’m gonna stick with my choice: Snobist
His tomfoolery gives me more reasons than yesterday

It makes no sense to vote for him. What if he's really the BG? It makes more sense to vote for me and through me you will get him too.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

You know the result of the investigation.
Your opinion as the BG is very important. Who do you think are the Gs? Since Snobist claimed to be the BG, that's probably him and also probably me and ALC. Or do you have others in mind?

If Snobist is a G, I don't see why you or ALC would also be Gs

 

[Osman]

Jesus, did not expect any of this when I went to bed (tho snobist being "BG" was predictable after Alens earliest posts, almost felt to me Alen was trying to get the guy whacked). Non of this makes any sense, regardless of role. Why Snobist tells 2 random players he is BG, wether he is or trying to trick them as G or is BG etc. And why Alen waits that long to out him (before he was jailed), which is a major development that needs to be confirmed quickly. Even more why Matt claims to be BG, but has like zero aggression towards snobist who should feel is lying 100% and question him or out him, but I dont see any of that. Even if Matt is a G who was investigated trying to make us distrust Snobist (not a stretch), should atleast be fake outrage or confrontation. Instead just says he is BG and leaves it at that?

@Snobist @Quetzalcoatl

 

[Alen]

If Snobist is a G, I don't see why you or ALC would also be Gs

So he's a G and he sent PMs to me and Alc, where he claimed to be the BG.
Why would a G do that? If one of me, or ALC, was the real BG, we'd have gotten him right away.

If he's a G, then it's very probable that so are we.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Jesus, did not expect any of this when I went to bed (tho snobist being "BG" was predictable after Alens earliest posts, almost felt to me Alen was trying to get the guy whacked). Non of this makes any sense, regardless of role. Why Snobist tells 2 random players he is BG, wether he is or trying to trick them as G or is BG etc. And why Alen waits that long to out him (before he was jailed), which is a major development that needs to be confirmed quickly. Even more why Matt claims to be BG, but has like zero aggression towards snobist who should feel is lying 100% and question him or out him, but I dont see any of that. Even if Matt is a G who was investigated trying to make us distrust Snobist (not a stretch), should atleast be fake outrage or confrontation. Instead just says he is BG and leaves it at that?

@Snobist @Quetzalcoatl

What is there to say? "You're lying?!?!?!!?"

It's clear to me how this is going to end up so I'll just wait a few hours.

 

[Mr Chocolate]

2 days till we can really do anything regarding the BG decision, the D can't share the results anyway, he have to wait for the gunblast or whatever its called, its just a ploy to waste time

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

So he's a G and he sent PMs to me and Alc, where he claimed to be the BG.
Why would a G do that? If one of me, or ALC, was the real BG, we'd have gotten him right away.

If he's a G, then it's very probable that so are we.

Nothing he has done has made any sense, I'm not sure why he would do that under any condition, C or G

But why would you do what you did if you were all Gs?

 

[Alen]

Jesus, did not expect any of this when I went to bed (tho snobist being "BG" was predictable after Alens earliest posts, almost felt to me Alen was trying to get the guy whacked). Non of this makes any sense, regardless of role. Why Snobist tells 2 random players he is BG, wether he is or trying to trick them as G or is BG etc. And why Alen waits that long to out him (before he was jailed), which is a major development that needs to be confirmed quickly. Even more why Matt claims to be BG, but has like zero aggression towards snobist who should feel is lying 100% and question him or out him, but I dont see any of that. Even if Matt is a G who was investigated trying to make us distrust Snobist (not a stretch), should atleast be fake outrage or confrontation. Instead just says he is BG and leaves it at that?

@Snobist @Quetzalcoatl

I didn't really. I was jailed like 3 hours after voting started and 3 hours before the jailer usually puts someone in jail. I didn't have enough time to think it through and react. I still made it perfectly clear that he is the BG and I kept calling him to admit it.
You have to look at this from my perspective. If someone sends you a PM that he's the BG, without having the slightest idea what my role was, then you have to assume that you're dealing with a terrible player. What do you do then? You ask yourself, is he the BG? If he is, then it's gonna be tricky. Do I want the D to work with Snobist and how do I plan to do it all? I fully expected him to come out and admit that he was the BG. Then I was jailed.

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And I least I kept saying that Snobist was the BG and I showed the conversations.
ALC didn't even do any of that

That's because Snobist was too scared and didn't want us to tell anyone about his role. He trusted only me and ALC, having no idea what our role really is

 

[campionesidd]

I’m not sure who is the real BG. It’s impossible to say at this point. However, Tomice has been acting suspicious all game imo. I will point out why I think he’s a G:
1) He was strongly against Alen’s story about Snobist contacting him. In fact, he claimed many times that Alen was lying. Later it was proven that Alen was in fact correct. This doesn’t mean that Alen is a C, but it does show that he was saying the truth about his interaction with Snobist.
2) When Snobist publicly came out, Tomice was strongly against his claims. Yes, we all should be skeptical of Snobist, but he downright refused to believe him. I believe this is because he and the G’s were coming up with a plan for one of them to claim that they were the BG’s and Tomice was sowing the seeds of doubt before that happened.

Now look at the current situation. Majority of the players believe that Quetz is the real BG and Snobist is lying. This is because Quetz is more experienced while Snobist is somewhat of a loose cannon. The whole game Tomice has confused and thrown everyone off and acted with an air of certainty that only a G could have.
I say we should hedge our bets by voting Tomice. If he’s a G, I’m almost certain that Quetz also is one. If it turns out he’s a C, then Snobist is probably lying and we can trust Quetz.

 

[radekas]

I don't like the idea of voting for someone who can't defend himself. Not with the lack of real information we have right now.

 

[ALC]

I’m not sure who is the real BG. It’s impossible to say at this point. However, Tomice has been acting suspicious all game imo. I will point out why I think he’s a G:
1) He was strongly against Alen’s story about Snobist contacting him. In fact, he claimed many times that Alen was lying. Later it was proven that Alen was in fact correct. This doesn’t mean that Alen is a C, but it does show that he was saying the truth about his interaction with Snobist.
2) When Snobist publicly came out, Tomice was strongly against his claims. Yes, we all should be skeptical of Snobist, but he downright refused to believe him. I believe this is because he and the G’s were coming up with a plan for one of them to claim that they were the BG’s and Tomice was sowing the seeds of doubt before that happened.

Now look at the current situation. Majority of the players believe that Quetz is the real BG and Snobist is lying. This is because Quetz is more experienced while Snobist is somewhat of a loose cannon. The whole game Tomice has confused and thrown everyone off and acted with an air of certainty that only a G could have.
I say we should hedge our bets by voting Tomice. If he’s a G, I’m almost certain that Quetz also is one. If it turns out he’s a C, then Snobist is probably lying and we can trust Quetz.

I hope people read this

 

[campionesidd]

I don't like the idea of voting for someone who can't defend himself. Not with the lack of real information we have right now.

I actually agree, I will likely vote for Mr Choco today unless something concrete comes up, but Tomice is a prime G candidate imo.

 

[ALC]

I didn't really. I was jailed like 3 hours after voting started and 3 hours before the jailer usually puts someone in jail. I didn't have enough time to think it through and react. I still made it perfectly clear that he is the BG and I kept calling him to admit it.
You have to look at this from my perspective. If someone sends you a PM that he's the BG, without having the slightest idea what my role was, then you have to assume that you're dealing with a terrible player. What do you do then? You ask yourself, is he the BG? If he is, then it's gonna be tricky. Do I want the D to work with Snobist and how do I plan to do it all? I fully expected him to come out and admit that he was the BG. Then I was jailed.

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And I least I kept saying that Snobist was the BG and I showed the conversations.
ALC didn't even do any of that

That's because Snobist was too scared and didn't want us to tell anyone about his role. He trusted only me and ALC, having no idea what our role really is

all this has done is serve to show that Albanians are more trust worthy than Croats.

unless Snobist turns out to be a G. Then it’s the other way around.

 

[piotrr]

Mr. Chocolate (3) - Klin, radekas, ALC
king Ale (1) - ILFJ
Snobist (1) - Ronn
Tomice (1) - campionesidd

king Ale, Snobist, Alen, kappa96, Kyle, Quetz, GordoDeCentral, Fr3sh, Mr. Chocolate, and Osman are yet to vote.

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Tomice is in jail and his vote does not count.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Mr. Chocolate

 

[Alen]

12:19 AM: I show the PMs where Snobist tells me he's the BG.
1:45 AM: Snobist confirms that he is the BG
1:51 AM: Quetz says that I had no reason to lie and that Snobist already confirmed it.
1:54 AM: Quetz asks the D not to contact Snobist and asks Snobist why did he contact me and ALC.
2:03 AM: Quetz gives a facepalm as an answer to Snobist.
2:07 AM: Quetz gives a "dafuq" to me.
2:26 AM: Quetz says that he's not a G and if he was he'd have no reason to dispute Snobist.
2:45 AM: Quetz with another post.
2:57 AM: Quetz with another post.
3:56 AM: Quetz with another post.
4:12 AM: Quetz asks what if Fr3sh is the BG?
4:17 AM: Quetz says there is no need to rush.
5:34 AM: ILFJ says he is the BG.
5:41 AM: ILFJ says that he's joking and he's not the BG.
6:22 AM: Out of nowhere, Quetz says that he is the BG and stops posting for like 6-7 hours (went to bed probably)

What happened in the meantime? I guess they were waiting to find out who did the D investigate and that the D made a late investigation. This means they have a shortlist of potential Ds. They're probably thinking they have the D and they'll whack him tonight. Worth the risk to lose one for the D and to leave the Cs with Snobist as the BG.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Where the hell is @Fr3sh