Mafia 2016 - مافيا ۲۰۱۶ (5 Viewers)

Collaguazo

Pezuña Brava
Mar 4, 2012
3,610
Meh. I knew he was trolling. He tried to act tough. Also told me to vote for fred.
Hello Haengeboffer. Did you know that the name Gilleleje comes from a combination of the words Gil and Leje


Okay this is what we are gonna do today. I am going to show you 5 phrases and I want you to tell me the first thought that comes to your mind.

Ready?




Tak for kaffe!

hyppe kartofler

have røven i vandskorpen

ko på isen

spis lige brød


Now answer this questions please

What is your early memory as a child?

How do you see yourself in 10 years?
 

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Mohad

The Ocean Star
May 20, 2009
6,703
@Mohad, what's your newest theory? You voted on me because you thought me and Alen were fellow G's and that he decided to mention my name out of nowhere. Not only is this the most retarded theory in recent mafia history, but now Alen is a confirmed good guy. What are your thoughts now?
Do you even read what I post? How about you stop twisting my words because you are making me more convinced that you are a G.
 

Kate

Moderator
Feb 7, 2011
18,595
I've read through yesterday's posts, but still have to get through the posts since the deadline.

I mainly looked at Sidd and my trains.

I am leaning on thinking Voeller is a C. He keeps being concerned by things like who turned their invisibility on when (he’s the first person to bring invisibility up, with regards to Igor, but doesn't really pursue it), or when the voting starts (like getting the time wrong and saying Alen’s vote didn’t count). To me, it feels like overeagerness in a C way. He is the first person to vote Sidd for the invisibility change, but changes his vote after Sidd explains himself. He only changes back later to save himself, which makes sense.

Hangenbutter going on holiday is null, even if his post is a “tactic”. He could just as easily be a G laying low as he could be a vanilla C who is bored by his role and therefore doesn’t want to play. He is the first to jump on Sidd’s wagon, though.

Radekas is the next one to jump on Sidd, again citing the “it’s the only thing we have to go on” reason. For either of them, it's such an easy G move to make.

Tomice is the first to vote for me, giving no reason and only quoting my post of “Nice to meet you”. Could easily just be a joke/throwaway vote/provocation vote.

Qwisto is the next to vote for me, again with no explanation attached.

Igor follows, another vote with no reasoning. When pushed later on he says it’s “she posts like I imagine an experienced player would hide his G'ness” which is fine a newb, but doesn't really mean anything either.

Osman then comes in and votes for me, saying “Kate's calculating style this time (she is usually VERY quiet type of poster) and Sören being lowkey just seems less C then Völler who seems genuine to me so far, are the more likely candidates for me.” Which is a fair observation for me being more involved, but engaging in the game (especially early on) is the exact opposite of my usual G play and I feel like he knows that.

Tomice then agrees with him, saying that this is uncharacteristic for me (I think we’ve played together once, Tomice?), though he later changes his vote to Qwisto.

Sidd then votes for Voeller, saying he doesn’t find me as suspicious, and at this point his only choice is me or Voeller in order to save himself, so that's fine.

Osman calls Sidd a sheep for this. Why? Had Sidd chosen me, would you have called him a sheep then? He had a choice between 2 people to potentially try and save himself, and picked the person who had been going after him the most.

Qwisto returns to give his reasons for voting me was that I was asking questions, which could be a cover up. It could, but that’s also how you play the game :p

Tomice comes in now and says sorry Sidd, and votes for him, but he’d be up for voting for me too, I suppose still based on me seeming different.

I guess my feelings so far are that one or more of Os, Tomice, Hungenbuffer, radekas and Maddy (who also voted on Sidd's train for it being the obvious choice) is a G.

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Apologies for the word vomit, my notes were messy :p

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And I would include Igor and Qwisto as suspects, only I don't really know them at all yet.
 

Tomice

Senior Member
Mar 25, 2009
3,024
that's a good summery @Kate, thanks. We played twice maybe three times, definitely more then once.

One thing though, If you think Voller is a C and you know you are one how can I be a G? Who was I saving then?
 

Qwisto

Senior Member
Oct 5, 2010
515
You're done for, lady. It's obvious that Hoori would give C roles for the newbies. Suspecting them makes you a G. Enjoy the gallows
True, but I can't really see how the the votes could ever fall on one of us taking into account what has been written and done so far. And Kate probably knows that so other than creating a (very) little bit of doubt, I don't see what she gains from pointing us out in the least important part of her post.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
This leads us to the question... if you're all Cs, who are the Gs? They weren't in danger of being voted out, so it's probable that they played it cool...



... If the Gs did play it cool and weren't in danger, that means that 4 of Radekas, Fresh, Tudor, Soren, Fred, X, ILFJ, Mohad, Maddy, Osman, Quisto, Cazzo and Basel are Gs. That's 4/13.

Now, why whack me? You're right that I'm a whacking target, but would you believe that this was the first time an attempt to whack me was made on day 1? (well, the 2nd time, but the first time it happened, Fresh was the narrator and we were all civilians :D).
I did say that Horri handpicked the roles and I was the D. And then I repeated that I was the D who'll investigate Osman. It's possible that the Gs did think I was playing mind games and that I might actually be telling the truth.
I know for sure that Osman, if he doesn't suspect anyone to be a special role on day 1, would whack me right away. Fred is dying to finally kill me and for me to die before he does.
It's all based on a hunch. But if all of you are Cs (Sidd, Voller, Kate and Tomice) then you can bet your ass that at least one of the experienced players is a G.

So, the game leads us to voting Tomice. My hunch screams voteeeeee Osman.
But people like X, Kate, radekas, Hængebøffer and Søren are experienced players too. I'm fairly sure they'd go for you on the first day too. So would I (in most cases).

You always think I'm a G :p
@Voller. Ya it is suspicious that Kate was around and never voted. As a G I'd expect her to do her best to make it around deadline time, but perhaps what prompted Tomice to make a last minute vote that saved her, was because for some reason she went AWOL during deadline time. That is a plausible explanation for why Tomice had to make that last minute vote that even he knows would have brought heat on him.
It's possible, I guess. But why wouldn't Tomice just not vote for Sidd earlier? I'm definitely more inclined to think Tomice is a C.

Do you even read what I post? How about you stop twisting my words because you are making me more convinced that you are a G.
This is your original post:
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How am I twisting your words? You're suggesting that Alen is trying to "save" me. You're clearly suggesting that both me and Alen are G's. And this is at a time where ONE person is voting for me. Now that Alen is a confirmed C, this theory of yours is obviously worse even less than it was before. So what are your thoughts now? Dude, I'm trying to have a dialogue here. Give me some answers, please.
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,939
But people like X, Kate, radekas, Hængebøffer and Søren are experienced players too. I'm fairly sure they'd go for you on the first day too. So would I (in most cases).


It's possible, I guess. But why wouldn't Tomice just not vote for Sidd earlier? I'm definitely more inclined to think Tomice is a C.



This is your original post:


How am I twisting your words? You're suggesting that Alen is trying to "save" me. You're clearly suggesting that both me and Alen are G's. And this is at a time where ONE person is voting for me. Now that Alen is a confirmed C, this theory of yours is obviously worse even less than it was before. So what are your thoughts now? Dude, I'm trying to have a dialogue here. Give me some answers, please.
Do you think it makes you more or less suspicious to defend Osman?
 

Tomice

Senior Member
Mar 25, 2009
3,024
It's possible, I guess. But why wouldn't Tomice just not vote for Sidd earlier? I'm definitely more inclined to think Tomice is a C.
It's not, There is zero chance Kate went AWOL I wouldn't know about it beforehand, She said she wouldn't be around in the thread! I already admitted I've missed that but She wouldn't have sent the G's a PM as well even before that if she knew?
 

Kate

Moderator
Feb 7, 2011
18,595
that's a good summery @Kate, thanks. We played twice maybe three times, definitely more then once.

One thing though, If you think Voller is a C and you know you are one how can I be a G? Who was I saving then?
You're right. If you're a G, and we're all Cs, it doesn't matter who goes down, so why contribute so last minute? So indeed, either you and Voeller would be Gs, or we're all idiot Cs.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
Do you think it makes you more or less suspicious to defend Osman?
I don't understand your question.
It's not, There is zero chance Kate went AWOL I wouldn't know about it beforehand, She said she wouldn't be around in the thread! I already admitted I've missed that but She wouldn't have sent the G's a PM if she knew?
I'm not saying that she went AWOL. But it's not impossible that you voted on Sidd just in case Kate would get more votes in the last minutes. As I've said, I don't think that's the case, but I can't rule it out either.
 

Tomice

Senior Member
Mar 25, 2009
3,024
You're right. If you're a G, and we're all Cs, it doesn't matter who goes down, so why contribute so last minute? So indeed, either you and Voeller would be Gs, or we're all idiot Cs.
An idiot C then :D

Seriously though, I still think keeping Voller around was better then letting him get lynched on nothing. I know I'm a C and I was the only one trying to save him, there is no way the G's would let him be so close to lynching without even trying.

There is a possibility is that I was played all along by Voller and he was so certain I would save him even before I said I would that he told his fellow G's to stay calm, I doubt it.
 

radekas

( ͠° ͟ل͜ ͡°)
Aug 26, 2009
20,237
I've read through yesterday's posts, but still have to get through the posts since the deadline.

I mainly looked at Sidd and my trains.

I am leaning on thinking Voeller is a C. He keeps being concerned by things like who turned their invisibility on when (he’s the first person to bring invisibility up, with regards to Igor, but doesn't really pursue it), or when the voting starts (like getting the time wrong and saying Alen’s vote didn’t count). To me, it feels like overeagerness in a C way. He is the first person to vote Sidd for the invisibility change, but changes his vote after Sidd explains himself. He only changes back later to save himself, which makes sense.

Hangenbutter going on holiday is null, even if his post is a “tactic”. He could just as easily be a G laying low as he could be a vanilla C who is bored by his role and therefore doesn’t want to play. He is the first to jump on Sidd’s wagon, though.

Radekas is the next one to jump on Sidd, again citing the “it’s the only thing we have to go on” reason. For either of them, it's such an easy G move to make.

Tomice is the first to vote for me, giving no reason and only quoting my post of “Nice to meet you”. Could easily just be a joke/throwaway vote/provocation vote.

Qwisto is the next to vote for me, again with no explanation attached.

Igor follows, another vote with no reasoning. When pushed later on he says it’s “she posts like I imagine an experienced player would hide his G'ness” which is fine a newb, but doesn't really mean anything either.

Osman then comes in and votes for me, saying “Kate's calculating style this time (she is usually VERY quiet type of poster) and Sören being lowkey just seems less C then Völler who seems genuine to me so far, are the more likely candidates for me.” Which is a fair observation for me being more involved, but engaging in the game (especially early on) is the exact opposite of my usual G play and I feel like he knows that.

Tomice then agrees with him, saying that this is uncharacteristic for me (I think we’ve played together once, Tomice?), though he later changes his vote to Qwisto.

Sidd then votes for Voeller, saying he doesn’t find me as suspicious, and at this point his only choice is me or Voeller in order to save himself, so that's fine.

Osman calls Sidd a sheep for this. Why? Had Sidd chosen me, would you have called him a sheep then? He had a choice between 2 people to potentially try and save himself, and picked the person who had been going after him the most.

Qwisto returns to give his reasons for voting me was that I was asking questions, which could be a cover up. It could, but that’s also how you play the game :p

Tomice comes in now and says sorry Sidd, and votes for him, but he’d be up for voting for me too, I suppose still based on me seeming different.

I guess my feelings so far are that one or more of Os, Tomice, Hungenbuffer, radekas and Maddy (who also voted on Sidd's train for it being the obvious choice) is a G.

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Apologies for the word vomit, my notes were messy :p

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And I would include Igor and Qwisto as suspects, only I don't really know them at all yet.
I always go with my first hunch on day 1 and usually keep it till the end unless something extreme happens. I found out Enron and Hoori as Gs in previous games that way. It really was either go with Sidd or make a random guess for me.
 

Basel93

Senior Member
Dec 24, 2014
1,572
Honestly we don't have much to go on about, obviously the prime suspects so far are going to deny and manipulate us into believing they are Cs. I have my suspicions regarding 3 veterans, two of which have been quiet and/or posting nothing really. I don't think ill be up for the deadline, so Ill post my vote shortly.
 

lgorTudor

Senior Member
Jan 15, 2015
32,951
Honestly we don't have much to go on about, obviously the prime suspects so far are going to deny and manipulate us into believing they are Cs. I have my suspicions regarding 3 veterans, two of which have been quiet and/or posting nothing really. I don't think ill be up for the deadline, so Ill post my vote shortly.
Between the names Kate, Osman, Völler and Tomice there has to be 1-2 Gs
 

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