Mafia 2016 - مافيا ۲۰۱۶ (1 Viewer)

[Völler]

I'm not saying he "orchestrated" anything, but could have read his PMs and replied even if he didn't have time to check the thread in its entirety.

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Basically you and I are both hung up on our own 'proof'

But deciding to go for Alen two times in a row is quite a major decision imo. Something that requires more than just replying to PM's.

 

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[radekas]

Just going off pure off vibe going after the thread , Maddy, Fr3sh, radekas (too much of a sheep) , Kate, Mohad (way too obtuse in his posts) and and Sören before he claimed D cuz was too low key, would motivate me for a possible vote if they were on the chopping block.

And now a sheep too.

 

[Kate]

But deciding to go for Alen two times in a row is quite a major decision imo. Something that requires more than just replying to PM's.

Assuming the D will contact the BG, freeing up the BG to be whacked, is a one PM statement from an experienced player.

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I'm still not saying you're wrong about Fred, just that I feel more strongly about Os.

 

[Völler]

Assuming the D will contact the BG, freeing up the BG to be whacked, is a one PM statement from an experienced player.

You're not taking into account that the G's were likely to know that Hængebøffer was the D because he investigated Collaugazio. There were quite a few things to take into account and knowing how Alen would play a situation like this was really important. It wasn't just an whack A or B decision.

 

[Osman]

So you are suggesting that Osman was online to orchestrate the G's, but decided to lay low and stay away from thread? You think that's more likely than Fred being the experienced G?

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I can confirm that his defense was shitty.

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I haven't even posted my general thoughts about the G's because I've been focused on getting the experienced G. Wouldn't you agree that since the G's went for Alen two times in a row, there would have to be an experienced player among the G's?

I agree to a point, but it also easy to get lost in that thought process if you narrow the reasoning like that. Fact of the matter it doesn't require much to assume Alen is contacted by D and protecting him in second day, especially when Alen huff and puffs too much about not getting in touch with D yet, this especially is a give away. Atleast a third of the players would probably deem it too risky to take another hit on BG and prefer going for a sure kill, but most of others have played this game for years enough to take such a decision. Except unserious veterans like Fr3sh (rip Fred), ILJF and possibly Mohad who is just downright odd so far so not sure how he would reasoned as G.

They are 4, coming to such a decision isn't necessarily solely by one player, unless likely experienced G was stuck with 3 numbnuts aken to ILFJ.

 

[Kate]

You're not taking into account that the G's were likely to know that Hængebøffer was the D because he investigated Collaugazio. There were quite a few things to take into account and knowing how Alen would play a situation like this was really important. It wasn't just an whack A or B decision.

No, I'm not, because that's speculation between Alen and Soren, isn't it? Soren came out because they thought the Gs would probably have figured it out based on that, but we don't KNOW that that's what happened. It's entirely possible they didn't know/weren't sure. Unless you were there and you know they did.

 

[Osman]

You're not taking into account that the G's were likely to know that Hængebøffer was the D because he investigated Collaugazio.

Don't be as dumb as Sören, it still makes no sense he became so convinced he was outed solely on that. I know this game raises the paranoia but come on.

 

[Völler]

I agree to a point, but it also easy to get lost in that thought process if you narrow the reasoning like that. Fact of the matter it doesn't require much to assume Alen is contacted by D and protecting him in second day, especially when Alen huff and puffs too much about not getting in touch with D yet, this especially is a give away. Atleast a third of the players would probably deem it too risky to take another hit on BG and prefer going for a sure kill, but most of others have played this game for years enough to take such a decision. Except unserious veterans like Fr3sh (rip Fred), ILJF and possibly Mohad who is just downright odd so far so not sure how he would reasoned as G.

They are 4, coming to such a decision isn't necessarily solely by one player, unless likely experienced G was stuck with 3 numbnuts aken to ILFJ.

I think you're really overrating how many people that would go for Alen two times in a row. I'd say me, you, Fred, X and maybe Maddy or Kate would do it. Who else would you add to that list?

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Don't be as dumb as Sören, it still makes no sense he became so convinced he was outed solely on that. I know this game raises the paranoia but come on.

It's besides the point if Hængebøffer made the right decision or not by revealing himself. The point is that the D investigating Collaguazo is another factor to take into account when deciding who to go for. If they had a hunch that Hængebøffer might be the D and felt Alen would know, that changes the situation.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Osman trying to put his pressure on me

 

[Völler]

No, I'm not, because that's speculation between Alen and Soren, isn't it? Soren came out because they thought the Gs would probably have figured it out based on that, but we don't KNOW that that's what happened. It's entirely possible they didn't know/weren't sure. Unless you were there and you know they did.

Same answer as to Osman really. It IS speculation, but imo it's not unreasonable to think that they might have had a hunch that Hængebøffer was the D.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Question: How can we be so sure Haggenbuffy is the D? I must've missed something cause I didn't read all the posts.

 

[Kate]

I've got 10 more mins, it's Fred or Voeller I guess.

 

[radekas]

I've got 10 more mins, it's Fred or Voeller I guess.

It's the 2nd day you need to go an hour before the deadling. That kind of ruins the game for you. We should move the deadling to 10pm imo. I don't think anyone would mind.

 

[Basel93]

Question: How can we be so sure Haggenbuffy is the D? I must've missed something cause I didn't read all the posts.

We aren't. Well know by tomorrow.

 

[IliveForJuve]

It's the 2nd day you need to go an hour before the deadling. That kind of ruins the game for you. We should move the deadling to 10pm imo. I don't think anyone would mind.

I wouldn't mind.

 

[Kate]

It's the 2nd day you need to go an hour before the deadling. That kind of ruins the game for you. We should move the deadling to 10pm imo. I don't think anyone would mind.

Well tomorrow it won't matter anymore because it's the weekend, but yeah I have to leave work in 10 mins and that does make it more difficult to keep up if I have things planned afterwards.

 

[radekas]

Well tomorrow it won't matter anymore because it's the weekend, but yeah I have to leave work in 10 mins and that does make it more difficult to keep up if I have things planned afterwards.

@King_Ale

move the deadline to 10pm unless someone protests

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Well tomorrow it won't matter anymore because it's the weekend, but yeah I have to leave work in 10 mins and that does make it more difficult to keep up if I have things planned afterwards.

@king Ale

move the deadline to 10pm unless someone protests

 

[Kate]

And give everyone 5 minutes?

 

[Basel93]

@King_Ale

move the deadline to 10pm unless someone protests

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@king Ale

move the deadline to 10pm unless someone protests

Osman protested against it. But if everyone agrees to it I wouldn't mind.

 

[radekas]

And give everyone 5 minutes?

Starting tomorrow obviously