Mafia 2016 - مافيا ۲۰۱۶ (3 Viewers)

Qwisto

Senior Member
Oct 5, 2010
515
I'm starting to get angry. No matter how many comments and analyses I post, people still ignore basic logic. I get three automatic votes each day from people who are completely beyond reason. Mohad, who bends the evidence to fit his narrative. First Alen and me were G's, then Tomice was saving me, and now it's me and Kate who are G's. He's not making any sense. Then there's ILiveForJuve who simply votes for me 'cause he's retarded and (thankfully) doesn't like me. Or he's a G who's just using that reason as an easy excuse. In addition to that, there's the king of one-liners, X, who doesn't seem to been paying attention to the game. At least not enough to share his thoughts about it. Now I got Qwisto voting for me today again too. But I'll assume that he's a G, since his reasoning for voting on me yesterday (wanting to follow Sidd's last wish) was beyond pathetic.

Look, yesterday gave you guys got plenty of $#@!ing answers about me.

This was how the votes were distributed on day 1 at 22.56 (3 $#@!ing minutes before deadline):



Me and Sidd (a C) both have the same number of votes at this time.

Then who saves me? Tomice:



He does this at 22.57!!!!!!! That's 2 minutes before deadline. I repeat: TWO $#@!ING MINUTES BEFORE DEADLINE.

As we all know (except retards as ILiveForQuinoa), Tomice turned out to be a C. I wasn't saved by a G, but by a C.

So if I really was a G, WHY THE HELL WASN'T I SAVED BY A G EARLIER? Why would they let me hang out to dry like this? There's no way anyone could know that Tomice would save me this close to the $#@!ing deadline.

THE POINT: This is indicating that I'm probably not a G. Sure, we can't know for sure, but you retards sure as hell can't choose me as your most likely G candidate.

Look, Alen came to the same $#@!ing conclusion yesterday regarding Tomice. He knew that Tomice being a G would make me look suspicious as hell.


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@Qwisto, read this.

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@Hængebøffer, I asked Hoori, and your investigation WILL count. You better make sure you ain't investigating the one who's getting lynched.

JAILER: JAIL HÆNGEBØFFER.
I'm not entirely convinced you're a G but someone has to be and if two C's are out already, I'm looking for G's with insight and experience. And since you've been a contender in both votes so far with the other contender being a C, a few vague factors are pointing in your direction for the time being.

Regarding my pathetic excuse yesterday, it relied more on the fact that you and Sidd traded votes. I really didn't feel I had much else to go by. And I think we both know I'm a C so doubting me in public only makes you that more suspicious imo.
 

Qwisto

Senior Member
Oct 5, 2010
515
@Völler

And stop trying to convince me with logic that you know I don't get. I think you need to dumb it down or make it more relateable to make me understand the dynamics in the G group which you seem to know a lot about.
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,939
I'm starting to get angry. No matter how many comments and analyses I post, people still ignore basic logic. I get three automatic votes each day from people who are completely beyond reason. Mohad, who bends the evidence to fit his narrative. First Alen and me were G's, then Tomice was saving me, and now it's me and Kate who are G's. He's not making any sense. Then there's ILiveForJuve who simply votes for me 'cause he's retarded and (thankfully) doesn't like me. Or he's a G who's just using that reason as an easy excuse. In addition to that, there's the king of one-liners, X, who doesn't seem to been paying attention to the game. At least not enough to share his thoughts about it. Now I got Qwisto voting for me today again too. But I'll assume that he's a G, since his reasoning for voting on me yesterday (wanting to follow Sidd's last wish) was beyond pathetic.

Look, yesterday gave you guys got plenty of fucking answers about me.

This was how the votes were distributed on day 1 at 22.56 (3 fucking minutes before deadline):



Me and Sidd (a C) both have the same number of votes at this time.

Then who saves me? Tomice:



He does this at 22.57!!!!!!! That's 2 minutes before deadline. I repeat: TWO FUCKING MINUTES BEFORE DEADLINE.

As we all know (except retards as ILiveForQuinoa), Tomice turned out to be a C. I wasn't saved by a G, but by a C.

So if I really was a G, WHY THE HELL WASN'T I SAVED BY A G EARLIER? Why would they let me hang out to dry like this? There's no way anyone could know that Tomice would save me this close to the fucking deadline.

THE POINT: This is indicating that I'm probably not a G. Sure, we can't know for sure, but you retards sure as hell can't choose me as your most likely G candidate.

Look, Alen came to the same fucking conclusion yesterday regarding Tomice. He knew that Tomice being a G would make me look suspicious as hell.


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@Qwisto, read this.

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@Hængebøffer, I asked Hoori, and your investigation WILL count. You better make sure you ain't investigating the one who's getting lynched.

JAILER: JAIL HÆNGEBØFFER.
So salty.

Does anyone have some Vaginol for Voller?
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,939


What will day 3 of mafia bring us?

Will Voller, the boy from rural Denmark living the dream in cosmopolitan Copenhagen survive another day?

Is the Danish stallion back from his escapade to idyllic Gilleleje?

Is fr3sh gonna catch some pokemons or some Gs?

X mi pana, mi parcero, mi yunta, mi bodycito, mi ñeco, mi sandunga, mi cuate, mi bro, mi socio

I live for a bowl of quinoa. Quinoa is the food of the future

IgorTudor still bored

Will day 3 finally satiate the blood thirsty radekas the cat?

Will Fred the rich boy from an oil country have time today to post? If not he can always ask one of his servants to post for him

Mohad it is also weekend here biaaaach

Osman I don't know you but I picture you as a uptight guy wearing polo shirts, khaqui pants and a cashmere sweater around your neck

Maddy huh?

Qwisto and Basel you need to post more

And Kate, well... hi Kate! :D

Now I am gonna see if I can finally find the setting to change my status...
Fr3sh will catch HIV.

:agree: on Osman. Uptight phagget.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,571
I agree, and I pointed that out yesterday. Anyway, Alen was the BG and it was only logical that we'd follow his instructions.



You'd have to be daft to think that I was recruited. I have been so close to getting lynched both days. No way they'd risk recruiting me considering the amount of suspicion I have on me.

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I'm quite sure it isn't announced when a person is recruited.

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No idea why you wouldn't know that.
I played plenty of games where recruitment is announced in narration. 100 procent sure on that. But I don't think they have yet at all , but besides going after special role or investigated Cs I don't see why they wouldn't try for you too, they have to give 3 names and someone who was close to dying and might be assured C after days is good bet to add.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
Honestly what we need right now is for the experienced and the long-time posters to get more active. Unfortunately I only started reading on this forum 2-3 months ago so I do not know any of you.

The past 2 days don't give us much to go by, all we know is Alen was whacked by an experienced player, and that description fits at least half the players here.

Day 1: Sidd gets lynched, nothing to go on from this, was due to him not knowing invisibility mode is important. But then Alen gets whacked and guarded. Osman said its very normal for a veteran like Alen to be targeted from day 1. Primary targets were Voller, Sidd, & Kate

Day 2: Tomice is under fire for his behavior, Alen suggests we make a threeway tie. its a tie up until the last minute, thats when Kate changes her vote to Tomice, Voller reacts and changes to Tomice in order to avoid a tie, & Tomice votes Voller. I dont understand why Alen entrusted Kate with the tie-breaking vote though. @Völler could you explain why Alen let Kate be the tie-breaker?
It was a three-way tiebreaker between me, Tomice and Kate because we were the three people with most votes on day one. Why he let Kate have the tie-breaker, I'm not sure about. I guess he wanted to see if Tomice voting on Sidd was also a way of saving Kate. Afterwards, he said he would have voted for Tomice if Kate had voted on me. So I guess his plan, all along, way to get Tomice lynched. Because Tomice being a G would give more hints than me or Kate turning out to be a G.

I'm not entirely convinced you're a G but someone has to be and if two C's are out already, I'm looking for G's with insight and experience. And since you've been a contender in both votes so far with the other contender being a C, a few vague factors are pointing in your direction for the time being.

Regarding my pathetic excuse yesterday, it relied more on the fact that you and Sidd traded votes. I really didn't feel I had much else to go by. And I think we both know I'm a C so doubting me in public only makes you that more suspicious imo.
Sorry, I didn't mean to be too rude. :D

Normally, the G's don't want to let one of their fellow G's be in danger. Especially not with 3 minutes of the day to go. If I were to be a G, it would be weird that I was saved by Tomice and not another G earlier. Why would they let me be in danger for THAT long?

Me being a contender both days doesn't mean I'm likely to be a G. The first day I was - as I've said - saved by a C. That's speaking against me being a G. On the second day I was close to getting lynched because Alen, and Alen only, decided he wanted a three-way tie to see how people would change their votes close to deadline. If anything, me being close to getting lynched, indicates that I'm a C more than it indicates I'm a G. Especially because of the first day.

Also: I'm not the most experienced player in this game. Fred, Osman, Alen and X have played this for longer than me. Hell, Kate too.
 

Kate

Moderator
Feb 7, 2011
18,595
Honestly what we need right now is for the experienced and the long-time posters to get more active. Unfortunately I only started reading on this forum 2-3 months ago so I do not know any of you.

The past 2 days don't give us much to go by, all we know is Alen was whacked by an experienced player, and that description fits at least half the players here.

Day 1: Sidd gets lynched, nothing to go on from this, was due to him not knowing invisibility mode is important. But then Alen gets whacked and guarded. Osman said its very normal for a veteran like Alen to be targeted from day 1. Primary targets were Voller, Sidd, & Kate

Day 2: Tomice is under fire for his behavior, Alen suggests we make a threeway tie. its a tie up until the last minute, thats when Kate changes her vote to Tomice, Voller reacts and changes to Tomice in order to avoid a tie, & Tomice votes Voller. I dont understand why Alen entrusted Kate with the tie-breaking vote though. @Völler could you explain why Alen let Kate be the tie-breaker?
I don't think he entrusted me, as much as he knew that my decision was important. Voeller and Tomice had their votes on me; if Voeller moved his to Tomice, Tomice would just move his to Voeller and the tie would continue. They were waiting on me to make my move so that they knew how to vote to save themselves. And you saw them leap as soon as I made my choice. I voted for Tomice because, as I'd already said earlier in the day, I had more of an inclination that Voeller was a C. Now I'm not so sure, largely because Voeller has, in some way, been involved each day in the lynching of a civilian. D2 is more of a tenuous connection because sure, while he gave the final killing vote on Tomice, it was still self preservation.
 

Kate

Moderator
Feb 7, 2011
18,595
What the hell are you talking about?

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Both days I had to save myself.
I'm not talking about your voting on D1, I'm talking about putting the idea out there about the invisibility and people taking that bait. You're not my lynch candidate for today, I'm just pointing that out.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
I'm not talking about your voting on D1, I'm talking about putting the idea out there about the invisibility and people taking that bait. You're not my lynch candidate for today, I'm just pointing that out.
Tomice was the one who mentioned the invisibility thing.
 

Kate

Moderator
Feb 7, 2011
18,595
Osman, do you have any stronger feelings about me today that are more concrete than comments on my playing style?

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Tomice was the one who mentioned the invisibility thing.
This is true, my bad. You did second the vote, but then changed sooner than I remembered to ILFJ.

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My vote for today is actually going to go to radekas right now.

You're riding other people's coat tails, and just going with the flow. You get in early on the bandwagons, and you stay there.

Ok seems like campionesidd changing his invisibility mode is the only actual thing that happened so far.
D1, you vote for Sidd for the invisibility thing. Easy vote, easy choice, you stick with it.

I will make the 1 of 2 Tomice votes like Alen asked.
D2, you put an early vote in for Tomice because Alen said to. Easy vote, easy choice, you stick with it.

The thing is, in between, you never really contribute anything else. You posted a bit about reps, some off-topic conversation, but nothing helpful.

This is the most informative post that you make:

I haven't made an observation because there isn't any observation to be made so far. At least I haven't noticed anything strange other than the invisibility mode thing yesterday.

If you want my opinion I will give you that. We know one certain C, that is Alen. At this point he is probably talking with the Jailer and the D. I believe we should just let him coordinate our game and follow his lead. This is usually the best pattern to go after BG has been confirmed.

Also I quoted Kate and talked about myself because it was a slight accusation. I thought it was obvious.
Which doesn't say anything at all, apart from confirming why you're not really doing anything.

There has been a lot more to go on, or at least try to work with, than to sit and quietly let Cs get lynched.
 

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