Mafia 2015.2 - The Game (5 Viewers)

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,503
If it's in the rules, then ok, but the crooked cop's investigation shouldn't be that tightly connected with the deadline, imo. Yes, it's vital if the BG, jailer, lawyer do it before deadline. More or less it's the same for the D. But the CC simply finds out what did someone else do, and the deadline here isn't that important.

If it's in the rules then Jasper did fine. But for the future games a change in the rules could be considered.
It's in the rules...

Why? Everything but the jailer happens after deadline, they are so for very simple practical reasons. Whack and BG protection are each other counter parts so happens same time, lawyer an out for lynching so after deadline. And snoop is directly tied to investigation, since that's what it's snooping for that day (since it's limited amount of snoops, it must be timed & used on daily basis), and you don't receive investigation result during day but night time, so snoop must be too. They are all actions that are counter measure for another, for balance, so they need to occur in line with each other.
 

Klin

نحن الروبوتات
May 27, 2009
61,692
I doubt he's already recruited. Aren't the roles of dead players only redistributed among players who are still civilian?

I'm always keeping in mind that he might get recruited though, don't worry about that.
I meant if they haven't recruited already, not the new jailer. :tup:
 
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Ford Prefect

Ford Prefect

Senior Member
May 28, 2009
10,557
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    It's in the rules...

    Why? Everything but the jailer happens after deadline, they are so for very simple practical reasons. Whack and BG protection are each other counter parts so happens same time, lawyer an out for lynching so after deadline. And snoop is directly tied to investigation, since that's what it's snooping for that day (since it's limited amount of snoops, it must be timed & used on daily basis), and you don't receive investigation result during day but night time, so snoop must be too. They are all actions that are counter measure for another, for balance, so they need to occur in line with each other.
    This was my line of reasoning for insisting that the CC asks before the deadline. I've narrated 4/5 games and this has not been an issue before.
     

    Ragazza

    Calciopoli Director
    Jul 22, 2013
    5,060
    Yeah, the game I narrated, I gave both the D and CC their info pretty much immediately after I announced who was whacked/lynched for the day, one right after the other. Nobody complained, and I was a new player/narrator, so I think what's laid out in the rules is pretty straightforward.
     

    Maddy

    Oracle of Copenhagen
    Jul 10, 2009
    16,545
    Hi guys. I feel violated for posting pictures from a closed political meeting :(

    Anyhow.. can't be bothered to read thru the thread tonight. Fucking tired.

    Will return tomorrow.

    Edit: I couldn't help reading thru a bit of the thread :lol: @matt

    Thank you for 89man.
     

    king Ale

    Senior Member
    Oct 28, 2004
    21,689
    Deadline is 23.00 CET tonight

    X is in jail and cannot vote


    Salvo - Fred

    Radekas - 89man

    89man - Radekas

    Fred - Soren
    Quetz - Soren
    j0ker - Soren

    ALC - Klin
    Tevez10 - Klin
    Maddy - Klin

    king Ale - Enron

    Klin ALC

    Enron - Tevez10
    So the vote count was like this before Ocelot exposed Matt. Matt was asking for Soren's auto lynch earlier which was actually the first red flag in his game. I'm almost sure Soren is a C. He had three votes one of which had come from Matt. If both Klin and Soren are Cs, in case of a voting split like that above, Gs will refrain from being involved in any of the two groups (if Cs are going to kill a C themselves, why should Gs get themselves involved in that). This leads me to thinking that Klin must be a G.

    Fred's reasoning of why Soren must be a G is not making any sense. There are far better and stronger reasons why Soren must be a civilian: 1) his fake account was too big a stunt for a G to pull. 2) his reaction when he thought Ocelot was unintentionally helping Gs figure the detective out was telling.

    Klin and Fred are highly suspicious. I'd suggest that the D investigates either of the two.
     

    Salvo

    J
    Moderator
    Dec 17, 2007
    62,844
    So the vote count was like this before Ocelot exposed Matt. Matt was asking for Soren's auto lynch earlier which was actually the first red flag in his game. I'm almost sure Soren is a C. He had three votes one of which had come from Matt. If both Klin and Soren are Cs, in case of a voting split like that above, Gs will refrain from being involved in any of the two groups (if Cs are going to kill a C themselves, why should Gs get themselves involved in that). This leads me to thinking that Klin must be a G.

    Fred's reasoning of why Soren must be a G is not making any sense. There are far better and stronger reasons why Soren must be a civilian: 1) his fake account was too much a stunt for a G to pull. 2) his reaction when he thought Ocelot was unintentionally helping Gs figure the detective out was telling.

    Klin and Fred are highly suspicious. I'd suggest that the D investigates either of the two.
    I think they are both G's. Klin and fred. Playing so differently to last game.
     

    Fr3sh

    Senior Member
    Jul 12, 2011
    37,257
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    Fred

    Senior Member
    Oct 2, 2003
    41,113
    :tup:

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    Where the fuck is @Fred? The guy seems to never be here.
    I'm here, can't be around when the deadline is moved to 22:00 CET, thats 2 AM over here, and its a weekday.

    Anyway just read what happened yesterday, great job @Ocelot. I still dont understand how come it took that long for you to let us know though, surely the D didn't take that long to tell you?

    Ok, so I'm going to go back to my list. What do we know so far, we know Ocelot is the BG, so we can strike him off the list. Also, the two most active players will get off the list too, even though I still personally believe that Soren could very well be a G, but the list is the list, and the list only follows objective data, so Soren and Klin are off the list too. This leaves us with those 12 players, again the list will show that the remaining G's are among the below mentioned players:


    X
    fred
    radekas
    joker
    maddy
    ragazza
    enron
    89man
    ALC
    Salvo
    Hoori
    Tevez10

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    So the vote count was like this before Ocelot exposed Matt. Matt was asking for Soren's auto lynch earlier which was actually the first red flag in his game. I'm almost sure Soren is a C. He had three votes one of which had come from Matt. If both Klin and Soren are Cs, in case of a voting split like that above, Gs will refrain from being involved in any of the two groups (if Cs are going to kill a C themselves, why should Gs get themselves involved in that). This leads me to thinking that Klin must be a G.

    Fred's reasoning of why Soren must be a G is not making any sense. There are far better and stronger reasons why Soren must be a civilian: 1) his fake account was too big a stunt for a G to pull. 2) his reaction when he thought Ocelot was unintentionally helping Gs figure the detective out was telling.

    Klin and Fred are highly suspicious. I'd suggest that the D investigates either of the two.
    Please explain to me Soren's reaction, because he wasn't able to explain it, he instead tried to brush it away by telling me later, he forgot even making that post :lol: How does that in any way make him a C.

    But you know what, I actually started to think there might not be something in that explanation, he might be a C, perhaps our paranoia as C's makes us prone to making mountains out of molehills. But you know if he is indeed a C, then you are very suspicious imo. The way you're calmly brushing away his reaction either you're a very calm C, who can see through all the paranoia or you're a G.

    I do not like how you've slipped under the radar just because you were jailed on day 1, when we all know the jailers decision on day 1 especially, is nothing but a shot in the dark.
     

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