look, i have nothing against you personally, ur probably just a little messed up. If ur theory 4 the chamions league is that a 4th place club is likely to pull off another fluke like liverpool did, then i guess we can all write off barca, chelsea, juventus now then isnt it. Infact, u seem to know so much, i aint even gonna bother watchin the champions league on tues/wednesday now as you have already ruined the ending 4 me.