Luigi "Vergogna" Delneri (11 Viewers)
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So its either build a team over a longer time or finish 7th? Milan also have plenty of new players but I dont see them struggling? Excuses, excuses. Marotta brought mediocre players and appointed a mediocre coach to lead them, thats why we suck. It has nothing to do with time and infact, big clubs are expected to sign player who will give you results fast. Teams like Sampdoria need time to build something, but then again, Marotta is stuck in Sampdoria and hasnt really moved on yet.
Isn't Milan and Inter our natural competitor? Also, I find a lot of similarities between us and Milan. Milan also had problems for a few years with aging stars and a bunch of shitty players. The difference is that they managed to get off their problems in one season, and they didn't just throw money around to fix their problems as if they were City or Madrid, they actually spent it wisely. Cassano, Ibra, Boateng and van Bommel all cost close to nothing. Why should Marotta ask for longer time? He is leading a big club, Italy's biggest actually, and part of his responsibilities is to build a team that can get results quickly, thats just the nature of a big club.
Not this season.
Other than Champions League football, 15 points, their sporting director having worked there for 15 years becoming hugely influential and 17 years of consecutive Serie A football under the second richest man in Italy who doubles as president of the country and capo di tutti capi there is no difference.
They still have the shitty players and ageing stars, just 2-3 less. This isn't the reason they are doing better.
Yes, see Galliani reference.
Load of crap, basically. Even discounting fees and some astronomical wages they don't even fully own 2/4 of those players. See second point.
Because he's been here one season. See second point again.
Yes, with no CL football off the back of a 7th placed finish.
Expectation might be to get results quickly, doesn't mean we can get them. As if we are in the same boat as other big clubs anyway. The only club anywhere near the same predicament is Liverpool...
Other than Champions League football, 15 points, their sporting director having worked there for 15 years becoming hugely influential and 17 years of consecutive Serie A football under the second richest man in Italy who doubles as president of the country and capo di tutti capi there is no difference.
They still have the shitty players and ageing stars, just 2-3 less. This isn't the reason they are doing better.
Yes, see Galliani reference.
Load of crap, basically. Even discounting fees and some astronomical wages they don't even fully own 2/4 of those players. See second point.
Because he's been here one season. See second point again.
Yes, with no CL football off the back of a 7th placed finish.
Expectation might be to get results quickly, doesn't mean we can get them. As if we are in the same boat as other big clubs anyway. The only club anywhere near the same predicament is Liverpool...
I'm sorry Jay but all I see is excuses right here and I just basically don't agree with most of the things you just wrote. I think its great that you can keep hope and be optimistic about it but I'm not there at all. Its been way too many mistakes and way too many questionable and weird decisions through out this year.
Call it whatever you will. If you think a stronger, better prepared and stable opponent doing better is an excuse then who am I to argue? There are many facts there, you can disagree if you like. If you don't have faith in Marotta, fair enough. I'm not sure I do to be truthful. What I do have is realism. And what I will contest is stupid comparisons.
No CL and coming off the back of a seventh place finish didn't require 14 new players. And if he had that sort of bandwidth, the results should've been better than last year. But as things stand, we're still in seventh place. Thats not an excuse. It means nothing. Excuses cannot be made for incompetency or not being up to the given task, which wasn't as dire a situation as it is now, mind you.
We finished on 55 points in 09-10. I don't agree we are in a worse position in either the standings or the groundwork in place. Nowhere near acceptable because we are not solidly in CL, but not worse.
We have conceded less.
Course it does bro. It destabilises the environment when results are the need of the hour. New players need time to gel together. They don't hit the ground running. And it's not just that fourteen new players were brought in. It wasn't that they were world class either. Considering that, more than anything was the need of the hour, seeing the outgoing lot. As for the next lucky guy, I'd go with Sabatini.
Watch out, because you'll get rubbished around here for saying players need time to gel. Of course they do, but results overshadow performances and how a player is fitting in. Finding a way to win is what matters. See my points to Suns regarding signing 'world class' players.
So we sign Sabatini, if he ends up in the same position this time next season what do we do?
So we sign Sabatini, if he ends up in the same position this time next season what do we do?