Luigi "Vergogna" Delneri (44 Viewers)

Finish the season with or without Del Neri?

  • Yes, keep Del Neri till the end of the season and then fire him

  • Fire Del Neri now and replace him with someone else till the end of the season

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adriano_c

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Juve’s big small-team problem
The legendary Antonio Cabrini fears that Juventus’ problems against the smaller clubs this term will cost them a place in the Champions League.

The Old Lady are currently seventh in Serie A, seven points adrift of fourth-placed Lazio after their reverse at Lecce.

That defeat highlighted the Bianconeri’s struggles against the smaller sides which is backed up by the statistics.

In games against the teams currently occupying the top 10 positions in the League, Milan have netted 19 points to Juventus’ 23.

However, in matches against sides placed 11th-20th in the standings, Milan have grabbed 36 points and Juve just 18.

“Between the highs and lows, Juventus are picking up very little,” said Cabrini, a former Juventus and Italy left-back.

“The fact that they struggle against the 'provincial’ sides is something that they have to reflect on,” he added.

“The seven point gap between them and Lazio is a big one and Juventus’ remaining fixtures are not the simplest.”

http://www.football-italia.net/feb25d.html

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May 22, 2009
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But we do have our full team. Besides Quag, the rest is pretty much there. Our strikers are playing, our midfield is healthy and our defense is pretty much still intact. The only player who should be playing is De Ceglie but I refuse to believe that the loss of DC is the reason why we're playing badly.
 
Alen

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JuveJay said:
Up until the injuries kicked at the end of October, we had few injuries (long term Buffon, Martinez and a few niggles) and were 15 from 27, which is a reasonable start. Then we lost De Ceglie to a bad one, we had 9 injured and by the start of November we had 14 players injured either out or struggling on. We went from a good spell up to the Milan win (De Ceglie :(), injuries, to 3 points from 12. Got a few back. 7 points from 9. Then Parma, bang, Quagliarella gone, followed by most of our other forwards, 1 from 12. Matri came in and the other strikers bar Quag came back. Unlucky against Palermo and then two wins plus the Lecce debacle. 6 from 12 therefore.
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I won't count Melo's and Krasic's bans because that had to do with stupidity, not with bad luck and injuries.

If we're talking strictly injuries, then we didn't have problems with that (the starting XI players), except for January when we didn't have available strikers. Buffon was fairly well replaced by Storari and I still don't see De Ceglie as an important figure whose injury hurt Juve. De Ceglie played only against Bari, Sampdoria, first half against Inter, Lecce, Bologna and first 40 minutes against Milan. Those are 2 wins-3 draws-1 defeat.
Chiellini and Bonucci were ever present. The midfielders were almost never injured (Krasic and Melo were banned for 3 matches), on right back we always had a player of more or less the same quality. Only in January we suffered problems in attack before Matri arrived. Without Quag and Matri we had 1-1-2 (beat Bari, drew Sampdoria, lost to Udinese and Napoli). Parma I won't count because Melo's stupidity (red card) fucked us there.

Of course that you'll have better results with your best players, but injuries aren't the reason why we're doing bad this year. They might be the reason why we're 7 points behind 4th place and we're not 3 or 4 points behind Lazio, but that's it.
 
JuveJay

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I didn't say injuries were the (main) reason we were doing badly, just that we were doing better without them. You only take into account those out for a period. I make a note now and again when we pick up several at a time, on another forum.

October 31st
Jorge Martinez - 12 weeks - fractured metatarsal
Paolo De Ceglie - 12 weeks - fractured patella
Gianluigi Buffon - 10 weeks - back
Alex Manninger - 4 weeks - thigh
Zdenek Grygera - 3 weeks - thigh
Armand Traoré - 3 weeks - calf
Amauri - 1 week - thigh
Vincenzo Iaquinta - 1 week - glutes
Giorgio Chiellini - 1 week - calf

November 4th
Jorge Martinez - 12 weeks - fractured metatarsal
Paolo De Ceglie - 12 weeks - fractured patella
Gianluigi Buffon - 8 weeks - back
Alex Manninger - 4 weeks - thigh
Zdenek Grygera - 3 weeks - thigh
Armand Traoré - unknown - calf
Davide Lanzafame - 2 weeks - calf
Amauri - unknown - thigh
Vincenzo Iaquinta - 1 week - glutes
Momo Sissoko - unknown - ?
Giorgio Chiellini - unknown - calf
Milos Krasic - unknown - ?
Nicola Legrottaglie - unknown - ?
Felipe Melo - unknown - thigh

January 14th
Quagliarella - 120-180 days - knee ligament
Toni - 25-30 days - knee strain
Iaquinta - 14-25 days - thigh strain
De Ceglie - 14-25 days - knee ligament
Rinaudo - 10-15 days - back strain
Martinez - 7-10 days - thigh strain
Sissoko - 7-10 days - quad inflammation
Amauri - 2-5 days - broken nose

Of course that only goes so far, but we did better with those players (except Buffon). It doesn't explain failings in certain games, but does restrict options to change the team either before or during the game.
 
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