Luigi "Vergogna" Delneri (55 Viewers)

Finish the season with or without Del Neri?

  • Yes, keep Del Neri till the end of the season and then fire him

  • Fire Del Neri now and replace him with someone else till the end of the season


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RAMI-N

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Aug 22, 2006
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I understand that.
Good :D

And the multiple times it has happned this season.
Rudnev's raping
Cavani's raping
Parma-Giovinco's raping
Palermo's rape, twice this season
Lecce's rape

Enough is enough
Napoli's game, I blame the players more than DN...
The second game against Palermo and Lecce game, we were destroyed by DN substitutions :sergio:
 

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juventino899

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Dec 29, 2009
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We should keep Del Neri till the end of the season then fire him unless a suitable replacement is available.

If we are going to fire him imo theres no point in hiring someone like Deschamps or Spalletti, Juve needs someone who has proven himself capable of winning trophies!

Same goes for Marotta
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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We should keep Del Neri till the end of the season then fire him unless a suitable replacement is available.

If we are going to fire him imo theres no point in hiring someone like Deschamps or Spalletti, Juve needs someone who has proven himself capable of winning trophies!

Same goes for Marotta
Deschamps and Spaletti have proven himself capable of winning trophies.
 

The Curr

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Feb 3, 2007
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That's a good point. I think it's a mixture of both. It's obviously not only Del Neri's fault, or only the players' fault alone. I think it started last year when our 'project' failed miserably thanks to our manager's idea of building a team around Diego. We bought the necessary players for a 4-3-1-2 to work. It didn't, and we shipped Diego off.
We didn't buy the necessary players for a 4-3-1-2 at all. That's why it didn't work. We just bought Diego and tried to make the rest of the team fit around him.
That wasn't our only problem; we also had defensive worries with our fullbacks. That issue was not dealt with properly, here I blame the management and the coach for not making sure a good fullback was brought it. This season; we abandoned the 4-3-1-2 and went back to the classical 4-4-2. We bought players like Krasic and Martinez to play on the wings. One did fairly well, the other didn't.
I wouldn't call our first choice formation as a "classical" anything. It is/was a hybrid. Krasic playing a very different role to his counterpart on the left side. Quagliarella didn't play as a typical centre forward or as typical second striker. De Ceglie plays/played very differently to Sorensen. Even the Dane has spoken about "the three in defence" (him, Chiello, Bonucci).
The error here is placing too much hope on Martinez when we should have invested in a player who would be a little more dependable. As for Pepe, I think he was just bought as a decent backup, nothing more. Selling Trezeguet without getting a replacement was another major error.
We definitely over-paid for Martinez.

Releasing Trez while keeping both Amauri and Iaquinta is probably the worst decision Marotta has made at Juve IMO.
Clearly, Del Neri isn't to blame for everything. There were many aspects that should have been dealt with the board and weren't. However, I still think this squad should do better. We aren't as good as Inter or Milan but we're definitely on the same level as Roma, and overall, we are better than Napoli, Palermo, and Lazio.
Us being better than Napoli, Palermo, and Lazio is very debatable. Especially the first two.
It is the coach's job to get the best out of his players, and I honestly don't think Del Neri has consistently done that this season. Too many ups and downs and there doesn't seem to be any level of consistency in this team. Add to that the fact that his idiotic substitutions and questionable decisions concerning the starting line-up.
I agree about the inconsistency, which is very frustrating. Losing to Lecce the week after beating Inter ffs. Both management and players have to take some blame for this. I'm convinced it would improve if Delneri was given more time with a relatively injury-free squad.

Which substitutions would you describe as "idiotic"?

When a team has a shit season, everyone is to blame. It's that simple. Do I think Del Neri should be fired? Yes. Not because it's all his fault but because a new coach might revitalize the squad somehow and change things around. Right now, we need change. We need to take a gamble because the way things are going, we will be lucky to see 7th place.
We've tried the "we're under-performing. Let's sack the manager, that'll make everything better" tactic too many times recently. It worked for what, 3 matches, under Ciro? I think we need to give Delneri more time and hope that he can at least get us cemented in the top 4 for a couple of years. I believe he's capable of that with this squad plus a couple of reasonable additions.

I reckon if we had our squad all season, like Napoli, we'd be top 4 now, no problem.
We need to recruit their version of Dr. Agricola. :shifty:
 

Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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If we bring a random coach to replace him now,hope fully this new random mediocre coach will be fired by the end of the season and make room for a proper coach, even if our situation improves. I surely wouldnt want to exp a new Ferrara and our extremely brainless management surely had forgotten about that and would make such a pointless gamble again...
 

Juve_fanatic

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Apr 5, 2006
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I swear to God, when i saw how Del Neri subbed Storari for Krasic i was 100% we would loose the game.....this was probably the dumbest sub ever in the history of football. I will never ever understand that substitution.....i am pissed even now, although it has been almost a week after the Lecce game.......and yeah, im late with my comment cause i have little access to the internet....
 

Juve_fanatic

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Apr 5, 2006
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BTW, can someone please tell me the exact reason why Juventus didnt keep Deschamps when we returned to Seria A?? You know, i never actually heard what was the exact reason for that......
 

Fake Melo

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Sep 3, 2010
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BTW, can someone please tell me the exact reason why Juventus didnt keep Deschamps when we returned to Seria A?? You know, i never actually heard what was the exact reason for that......
Like stated above, disagreements with the board. Secco wanted to bring players like Iaquinta and Almiron, Deschamps wanted the players he chose himself.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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None, aside from the fact we were 2nd (-2) with a full squad (mostly). And when we had a full squad in February (still minus our goleador) we had a good performance against Palermo, two wins to follow, and the abomination on Sunday.

Other than that, nothing. I highlight the abomination because really that's all the current sentiment stems from.
You said if we had our entire squad fit we'd be top four now, "no problem." Past performance doesn't indicate future success. So you're applying past results to the current situation. History suggests that we usually do struggle in the winter months. Looking at the current situation, we basically have a full squad anyway, yet we're still struggling.

In other words, you're trying to tie our position in the table down to injuries or other excuses, and that doesn't fly with me, even though I know it's your M.O.

Maybe not all of it. We have some Secco signings in there as well. But those guys did sign the players, along with their mentalities. You can blame individual players for individual performances, but when they consistently don't fit the bill, or have been sporadic players in the past before signing with the team, then the GM is to blame.
 

only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
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The stats speak for themselves. Full team - better results. Carry on dressing it up how you like.
Traore, Rinaudo, De Ceglie, Pepe, Quagliarella those are our injured players. Other than Quag who had a great performance since the start of the season, Non has really made the difference to our team.

By the way, injuries is a part of the game and there is no way a season will go by without players getting injured. So the argument that injuries is what hurting this team is pretty poor.

Beating Inter + milan and losing to the likes of lecce and Bari !! Hardly can blame that on injuries, more like we have one fucked up mentality in this team.
 

Gian

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Apr 12, 2009
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It is quite fucked up we suck at setpieces under Delneri. Defending setpieces just as much as scoring goals from it. I thought FK and CK were Juve's strenght, this really did go down in a season.
 

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