Luigi "Vergogna" Delneri (51 Viewers)

Finish the season with or without Del Neri?

  • Yes, keep Del Neri till the end of the season and then fire him

  • Fire Del Neri now and replace him with someone else till the end of the season


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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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100% agreed.

Vialli won the coca cola cup (today's carling cup) the European super cup the Uefa cup winners cup and finished 4th with just being some months in charge, on his next season he finished third and clasified for the champions league and went all the way to quarter finals where he lost to Barcelona. Won the FA cup and then was sacked.

That's when Rainieri comes in the picture so yes, Chelsea was already competing for and winning things BEFORE he arrived. And he didn't win shit.


The most important thing Rainieri did for Chelsea imo was buying Lampard.

And btw, Rainieri was sacked just a season after Abramovich bought the club, today's team is more Jose's work than Rainieri's.
No doubt about that.

The "team builder" crap is just another Juventuz myth or conspiracy theory.
 

Salvo

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what i do like about del neri is the fact he recognises the bad performance, i remember ciro just saying he cant blame the players, he seemed soft, i dont think del neri is that the man yells all game.
 

noussa

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Aug 29, 2008
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Luigi Del Neri Not Impressed With Juventus' Performance Despite Win Over Sturm Graz
The coach saw some things he did not like...


Juventus coach Luigi Del Neri was not impressed with his side's performance against Sturm Graz despite the Bianconeri winning 2-1 in the first leg of their Europa League play-off.

The boss says the team has not forgotten about last season's errors, which contributed to the side conceding a goal this evening.

"I suffered a lot, as we did not do what we needed to," Del Neri said after the match to TuttoSport. "We also do not need to be scared when we concede a goal.

"We paid the ultimate price and conceded a goal due to our psychological problems, but we must forget about last season and move forward without thinking about the demons that haunted us.

"We can do much, much better. This does not sit well with me compared to how my teams normally play," concluded the coach.
 

Furia Ceca

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Mar 21, 2008
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No, he didn't "build" Chelsea. That's just bull crap. They had success before then.

Vialli won several things between 98 and 2000, including the FA Cup and the UEFA Super Cup.

Considering how many times this "great team builder" stuff is thrown around, a novice would believe that Ranieri is the best team builder in the world.
Yeah ofcourse Vialli did, because he stripped his suit off and had to get he job done himself. I dont care what Chelsea achieved earlier, I'm talking about his era and how he improved he team. So bringing in Lampard and Czech is considered nothing today? They are the reason Chelsea are capable of winning today. Trust me the Africans arnt the ones doing the thinking With All due respect.

Explain to me last year with Roma? from 9th spot with a bad atmosphere in their club as we all knew and a recently dead president, how did he manage to finish second and almost win the scudetto? I don't care if Roma have history, stick to the question please.
 

Gabriel

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May 23, 2010
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Yeah ofcourse Vialli did, because he stripped his suit off and had to get he job done himself. I dont care what Chelsea achieved earlier, I'm talking about his era and how he improved he team. So bringing in Lampard and Czech is considered nothing today? They are the reason Chelsea are capable of winning today. Trust me the Africans arnt the ones doing the thinking With All due respect.

Explain to me last year with Roma? from 9th spot with a bad atmosphere in their club as we all knew and a recently dead president, how did he manage to finish second and almost win the scudetto? I don't care if Roma have history, stick to the question please.
I sincerely want an explanation on how Cech does the thinking for Chelsea.

Lampard i already said that it was the best thing he did.

Mind you, when Rainieri bought Cech he did it as a backup,and when he joined the team Rainieri was no longer there. Mourinho gave him his first team chance, not Claudio.

So he build a team with two signings? wow, i guess Jose's signings: Essien, Carvalho, Malouda, Drogba, Robben, Ashley Cole, Ballack, Kalou and Mikel didn't have an impact at all, right? :andyandbarcelona:

Barring Robben and Ballack all of them are in today's Chelsea squad.
 

X Æ A-12

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Yeah ofcourse Vialli did, because he stripped his suit off and had to get he job done himself. I dont care what Chelsea achieved earlier, I'm talking about his era and how he improved he team. So bringing in Lampard and Czech is considered nothing today? They are the reason Chelsea are capable of winning today. Trust me the Africans arnt the ones doing the thinking With All due respect.

Explain to me last year with Roma? from 9th spot with a bad atmosphere in their club as we all knew and a recently dead president, how did he manage to finish second and almost win the scudetto? I don't care if Roma have history, stick to the question please.
:rolleyes:
 

Furia Ceca

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Mar 21, 2008
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100% agreed.

Vialli won the coca cola cup (today's carling cup) the European super cup the Uefa cup winners cup and finished 4th with just being some months in charge, on his next season he finished third and clasified for the champions league and went all the way to quarter finals where he lost to Barcelona. Won the FA cup and then was sacked.

That's when Rainieri comes in the picture so yes, Chelsea was already competing for and winning things BEFORE he arrived. And he didn't win shit.


The most important thing Rainieri did for Chelsea imo was buying Lampard.

And btw, Rainieri was sacked just a season after Abramovich bought the club, today's team is more Jose's work than Rainieri's.
I'm not talking about history my friend, I'm talking about how effective he is during his own era and how he boosts the team up to compete, I also mentioned he isn't a winner. Today's chelsea has jose's additions of physical players who are very strong,but it's still lampard Terry and Czech who are key players.

He proved himself with Roma last year and Juventus(2007).
 

X Æ A-12

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In my personal opinion I think ranieri is one of the best coaches in the world to build a team from scratch And actually get them to compete, what he doesn't have is the personality to win and has some bad choices with substituting. He built chelsea but never won but as soon as mourinho joined them that was changed, he got us 3rd place on our first season back with worse players than now.

I wouldve kept him last year and let him finish his job and fired the board instead, then show him the door in 2010.
Meh I wouldn't go that far but he is certainly underrated around here. He is the perfect manager for a side such as Roma that aren't expected to win titles but can still compete with top teams. He would also be the perfect type of manager for Juventus right now :shifty:
 

Furia Ceca

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I sincerely want an explanation on how Cech does the thinking for Chelsea.

Lampard i already said that it was the best thing he did.

Mind you, when Rainieri bought Cech he did it as a backup,and when he joined the team Rainieri was no longer there. Mourinho gave him his first team chance, not Claudio.

So he build a team with two signings? wow, i guess Jose's signings: Essien, Carvalho, Malouda, Drogba, Robben, Ashley Cole, Ballack, Kalou and Mikel didn't have an impact at all, right? :andyandbarcelona:

Barring Robben and Ballack all of them are in today's Chelsea squad.
Don't get me wrong, I never said jose's signings arnt effective. And when I was talking about the thinking I meant lampard. A goalkeeper can think too for his part. Unless you think goalkeeping is just jumping. I'm only saying he had a big hand in creating today's chelsea.

When I say build, I don't only mean transfers and signings, it's also how he works with them when they're in bad form etc etc.

What about Roma last year? Was that spaletti? Or maybe Rosella?
 

Gabriel

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May 23, 2010
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If you think being runner up is somehow "effective" i guess that yes, he proved it.

the guy is a perennial runner up.


Lampard, Terry and Cech (not Czech, that's his nationality) are indeed key players but so are Essien (no, he's not brainless unlike sissoko), Drogba, Ashley Cole, and so was Carvalho (if it wasn't for him Terry wouldn't be what he is now).

Rainieri did 2 signings (Terry came from the academy), just two. And he didn't got to use Cech once, Mourinho did 9 signings. Who's got the bigger influence?

And no i don't think goalkeeping is just jumping, i play as a goalkeeper myself but you should've said it better, you implied that Lampard and Cech did all the thinking.
 

Furia Ceca

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Mar 21, 2008
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If you think being runner up is somehow "effective" i guess that yes, he proved it.

the guy is a perennial runner up.


Lampard, Terry and Cech (not Czech, that's his nationality) are indeed key players but so are Essien (no, he's not brainless unlike sissoko), Drogba, Ashley Cole, and so was Carvalho (if it wasn't for him Terry wouldn't be what he is now).

Rainieri did 2 signings (Terry came from the academy), just two. And he didn't got to use Cech once, Mourinho did 9 signings. Who's got the bigger influence?

And no i don't think goalkeeping is just jumping, i play as a goalkeeper myself but you should've said it better, you implied that Lampard and Cech did all the thinking.
My bad on the spelling, I have this auto speller on.
And yes that's exactly what I meant, he's a good coach when it comes to a bad team, he can get them on top spots of the table.

I'm not saying he's a great coach but like Badfish said, we needed someone like him last year.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
116,107
Yeah ofcourse Vialli did, because he stripped his suit off and had to get he job done himself. I dont care what Chelsea achieved earlier, I'm talking about his era and how he improved he team. So bringing in Lampard and Czech is considered nothing today? They are the reason Chelsea are capable of winning today. Trust me the Africans arnt the ones doing the thinking With All due respect.

Explain to me last year with Roma? from 9th spot with a bad atmosphere in their club as we all knew and a recently dead president, how did he manage to finish second and almost win the scudetto? I don't care if Roma have history, stick to the question please.
I'm not talking about history my friend, I'm talking about how effective he is during his own era and how he boosts the team up to compete, I also mentioned he isn't a winner. Today's chelsea has jose's additions of physical players who are very strong,but it's still lampard Terry and Czech who are key players.

He proved himself with Roma last year and Juventus(2007).
BULLSHIT.

John Terry was there since 1998, playing in the youth academy since 1995. Vialli was the one who gave him his first chance. So therefore, this is like saying Ranieri developed Marchisio when it was Deschamps who gave him the time of day in Serie B.

The only fact that Ranieri has proven is that he could take a Roma side in the weakest Serie A since the 90's to second place. That is it. Period, paragraph.

You have absolutely nothing besides the Lampard signing. He was not developed by Ranieri either, ooooooooooohhh.
 

X Æ A-12

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Thank you!
Exactly my point :beer:
But I'm not saying the same thing as you. You claimed that he was one of the best coaches in the world and gave him credit where it wasn't due at Chelsea.

You also said that he should have stayed on at Juventus when he clearly couldn't have. He had lost the respect of the dressing room and the management, he had to go.
 

Gabriel

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May 23, 2010
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Rainieri was already in a bad streak with Juventus, i think the board decision regarding his firing was correct, it was all going to go downhill with him.

I'd agree that you needed someone like him but better, A LOT better (Hiddink? :p) last year though, just not him.
 

Furia Ceca

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Mar 21, 2008
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BULLSHIT.

John Terry was there since 1998, playing in the youth academy since 1995. Vialli was the one who gave him his first chance. So therefore, this is like saying Ranieri developed Marchisio when it was Deschamps who gave him the time of day in Serie B.

The only fact that Ranieri has proven is that he could take a Roma side in the weakest Serie A since the 90's to second place. That is it. Period, paragraph.

You have absolutely nothing besides the Lampard signing. He was not developed by Ranieri either, ooooooooooohhh.
I know john terrys history, when I mentioned him I meant that none of them are jose's players.

ohhhhhhh and on the bold part.... POINT PROVEN MORON!
 

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