It's now up to Del Neri to pump in some confidence in the lads. He has to make them man up.
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I hope the players feel embarassed and ashamed after the past two performances, and put in a massive effort against Bari and absolutely punish them to send out a signal.
I would love a big win against them to get some confidence back. Lets see if these guys have an ounce of pride and can come back stronger.
I would love a big win against them to get some confidence back. Lets see if these guys have an ounce of pride and can come back stronger.
IMO, the Bari game should be decisive game for Del Neri. If we get another Parma-Napoli humiliation then he has to leave.
There's no excuse for these humiliations no matter how many injured/absent players we have. Conceding 7goals in two matches to an below average Parma and not more than Europa League contenders is too much.
There's no excuse for these humiliations no matter how many injured/absent players we have. Conceding 7goals in two matches to an below average Parma and not more than Europa League contenders is too much.
We are playing Catania on Thursdag, right?
Well, then thats the time to get some confidence back. Lets start with Melo and Aquilani in middle, "rest" Marchisio for Pepe and play Amauri- Del Piero on top.
Buffon is coming back, and that is going to boost our confidence like hell.
Rab, open Catania thread?
Well, then thats the time to get some confidence back. Lets start with Melo and Aquilani in middle, "rest" Marchisio for Pepe and play Amauri- Del Piero on top.
Buffon is coming back, and that is going to boost our confidence like hell.
Rab, open Catania thread?
Kris Voakes’ Calcio Debate: Luigi Del Neri And Giuseppe Marotta Throw Away Momentum To Kill Juventus’ 2011 Scudetto Challenge
With Juventus' title hopes lying in ruins, Goal.com's Kris Voakes knows exactly where he'd point the finger of blame.
By Kris Voakes
Juventus went down to another crushing defeat last night in Naples as Edinson Cavani’s hat-trick of headers exposed the Bianconeri for the second time in three days. For the first time since November 1988, the club have conceded more than six goals in two consecutive games, and it has well and truly killed off their hopes of challenging for a Scudetto this year. If anything, their tilt died on Friday when they signed Luca Toni.
So much is said of confidence and momentum in football. Coaches and players will bemoan a lack of both when their side have had a couple of bad results, and similarly will talk of the need to take these valuable commodities into the forthcoming fixtures after a big win. This current Juventus squad is proving that momentum is not just a line trotted out by people in football, it’s possibly one of the most important things you can have on your side. And they’ve done their best to throw it away.
Back in September after their home defeat to Palermo, the Old Lady took on a similarly stuttering Cagliari, and Milos Krasic’s first three goals in Serie A dragged them through to a 4-2 win which started a marvellous run of results in the league. Victories over Milan, Lazio, Genoa and away to Catania followed, as well as precious draws against Inter and Roma, as the Bianconeri looked to have learned their lessons of 12 months ago to cling on to the hope that a double boost on and off the pitch in January would see them mount a serious title challenge for the first time since Calciopoli.
Instead they have seen their hopes unravel in just three days. Though it undoubtedly started with Fabio Quagliarella’s unfortunate knee ligament injury and Felipe Melo’s pathetic kick to the head of Massimo Paci, both coming in the opening 15 minutes against Parma on Thursday, coach Luigi Del Neri and sporting director Giuseppe Marotta need to take a fair amount of the blame for the slide not being immediately arrested even before their attention had turned to their trip to Naples.
Whilst a point would always have been difficult to secure given the circumstances, Del Neri’s response to Melo’s red card was ridiculous. Deciding to ride out the remaining 75 minutes with Amauri up front was simply suicidal. The man has scored just three goals all season, with every single one of those coming in Europa League pre-qualifiers before the domestic campaign had even started! His lack of confidence is visible in every possible aspect, and it was no surprise that he was unable to lead the line with the courage which was needed given the situation. Though Alessandro Del Piero is not exactly a line-leader, he would have been an infinitely better option to rely upon for the remainder of the game. A 4-3-2 could even have been employed in an attempt to keep more of the play high up the pitch.
Fast-forward 24 hours, and what are the Juventus board doing in response to the news that Quagliarella will be out until the summer? Why, they are introducing their new signing Luca Toni to the press. Yes, that Luca Toni. The one shunted out by Bayern Munich, discarded by Roma and proven to be washed-up at Genoa. The one with three goals to his name in 16 appearances this season. That’s barely any improvement on Amauri for crying out loud.
The lack of ambition shown by Marotta is remarkable. This is Juventus Football Club we are talking about. With all due respect, when he left Sampdoria he should have left small-time ambitions behind with them. Until Thursday, Juve were in with an outside chance of a 28th/30th title (delete as applicable). Yet only a day later, thanks in part to his lack of foresight, they were a laughing stock again.
This is a club that over the next five to 10 years should be in a good position to propel themselves back into European football’s stratosphere. With the new Delle Alpi being almost set to open its doors to the paying public, the Bianconeri could well lead the way for other Italian clubs in terms of stadium redevelopment/acquisition and the financial benefits it brings. If they haven’t already learned that from England and Spain, surely they will catch on when one of their own sees the euros and cents rolling in. Add to that their continuing chain of fine youth talent which could well start to bear some real fruit over the coming half-decade – as recently as Saturday I was tipped off about yet another excellent young Juventus talent – and the club should have a fine future again in no time at all.
But the short-termism displayed by Marotta on Friday and then Del Neri last night was pathetic. And Napoli made them pay. Who in their right minds would ever put Amauri and Toni alongside each other in attack? Yes, Toni should have been given a goal with the score at 1-0, but that apart the side looked completely impotent. Add to that the fact that Del Neri has been unable to arrest Leonardo Bonucci and Marco Motta’s respective slides in form and you start to question what exactly he’s done with the squad in training.
I said at the season’s start that Del Neri was not a man I could really picture with a Scudetto in his hands. In just over 72 hours he proved me right. Juventus will win nothing this season, and they will only have themselves to blame. Now they have to try to rein back some of the momentum they’ve thrown away to even get back into the Champions League again, for as much as last year’s failure was a disaster, to miss out a second time would be utterly unforgivable.
With Juventus' title hopes lying in ruins, Goal.com's Kris Voakes knows exactly where he'd point the finger of blame.
By Kris Voakes
Juventus went down to another crushing defeat last night in Naples as Edinson Cavani’s hat-trick of headers exposed the Bianconeri for the second time in three days. For the first time since November 1988, the club have conceded more than six goals in two consecutive games, and it has well and truly killed off their hopes of challenging for a Scudetto this year. If anything, their tilt died on Friday when they signed Luca Toni.
So much is said of confidence and momentum in football. Coaches and players will bemoan a lack of both when their side have had a couple of bad results, and similarly will talk of the need to take these valuable commodities into the forthcoming fixtures after a big win. This current Juventus squad is proving that momentum is not just a line trotted out by people in football, it’s possibly one of the most important things you can have on your side. And they’ve done their best to throw it away.
Back in September after their home defeat to Palermo, the Old Lady took on a similarly stuttering Cagliari, and Milos Krasic’s first three goals in Serie A dragged them through to a 4-2 win which started a marvellous run of results in the league. Victories over Milan, Lazio, Genoa and away to Catania followed, as well as precious draws against Inter and Roma, as the Bianconeri looked to have learned their lessons of 12 months ago to cling on to the hope that a double boost on and off the pitch in January would see them mount a serious title challenge for the first time since Calciopoli.
Instead they have seen their hopes unravel in just three days. Though it undoubtedly started with Fabio Quagliarella’s unfortunate knee ligament injury and Felipe Melo’s pathetic kick to the head of Massimo Paci, both coming in the opening 15 minutes against Parma on Thursday, coach Luigi Del Neri and sporting director Giuseppe Marotta need to take a fair amount of the blame for the slide not being immediately arrested even before their attention had turned to their trip to Naples.
Whilst a point would always have been difficult to secure given the circumstances, Del Neri’s response to Melo’s red card was ridiculous. Deciding to ride out the remaining 75 minutes with Amauri up front was simply suicidal. The man has scored just three goals all season, with every single one of those coming in Europa League pre-qualifiers before the domestic campaign had even started! His lack of confidence is visible in every possible aspect, and it was no surprise that he was unable to lead the line with the courage which was needed given the situation. Though Alessandro Del Piero is not exactly a line-leader, he would have been an infinitely better option to rely upon for the remainder of the game. A 4-3-2 could even have been employed in an attempt to keep more of the play high up the pitch.
Fast-forward 24 hours, and what are the Juventus board doing in response to the news that Quagliarella will be out until the summer? Why, they are introducing their new signing Luca Toni to the press. Yes, that Luca Toni. The one shunted out by Bayern Munich, discarded by Roma and proven to be washed-up at Genoa. The one with three goals to his name in 16 appearances this season. That’s barely any improvement on Amauri for crying out loud.
The lack of ambition shown by Marotta is remarkable. This is Juventus Football Club we are talking about. With all due respect, when he left Sampdoria he should have left small-time ambitions behind with them. Until Thursday, Juve were in with an outside chance of a 28th/30th title (delete as applicable). Yet only a day later, thanks in part to his lack of foresight, they were a laughing stock again.
This is a club that over the next five to 10 years should be in a good position to propel themselves back into European football’s stratosphere. With the new Delle Alpi being almost set to open its doors to the paying public, the Bianconeri could well lead the way for other Italian clubs in terms of stadium redevelopment/acquisition and the financial benefits it brings. If they haven’t already learned that from England and Spain, surely they will catch on when one of their own sees the euros and cents rolling in. Add to that their continuing chain of fine youth talent which could well start to bear some real fruit over the coming half-decade – as recently as Saturday I was tipped off about yet another excellent young Juventus talent – and the club should have a fine future again in no time at all.
But the short-termism displayed by Marotta on Friday and then Del Neri last night was pathetic. And Napoli made them pay. Who in their right minds would ever put Amauri and Toni alongside each other in attack? Yes, Toni should have been given a goal with the score at 1-0, but that apart the side looked completely impotent. Add to that the fact that Del Neri has been unable to arrest Leonardo Bonucci and Marco Motta’s respective slides in form and you start to question what exactly he’s done with the squad in training.
I said at the season’s start that Del Neri was not a man I could really picture with a Scudetto in his hands. In just over 72 hours he proved me right. Juventus will win nothing this season, and they will only have themselves to blame. Now they have to try to rein back some of the momentum they’ve thrown away to even get back into the Champions League again, for as much as last year’s failure was a disaster, to miss out a second time would be utterly unforgivable.
Ranieri? with Ranieri we used to go mental because we missed out from the league title, sitting 3rd got him sacked. Our expectation has dropped to just finishing in the top 4 now and were possibly more angry.
Anyone who puts Amauri and Toni in the starting lineup needs to be sacked, end of, im even prepared to give ancelotti a second chance if he were to leave chelsea soon
Anyone who puts Amauri and Toni in the starting lineup needs to be sacked, end of, im even prepared to give ancelotti a second chance if he were to leave chelsea soon
If I'm being honest I expected what happened in Naples after the Parma game, which is why Parma was such a disappointment, it stopped us dead in our tracks.
Also Chievo, without the silly sending off, two sendings off later and we are -5 points, even with Quagliarella's injury that gives us a fighting chance in Naples. Ifs and buts, but could easily have panned out this way.
Good teams can respond to these sort of situations, we saw a bad team last year and it fell apart, it was weak minded. Let's just get two wins and some confidence back now.
Also Chievo, without the silly sending off, two sendings off later and we are -5 points, even with Quagliarella's injury that gives us a fighting chance in Naples. Ifs and buts, but could easily have panned out this way.
Good teams can respond to these sort of situations, we saw a bad team last year and it fell apart, it was weak minded. Let's just get two wins and some confidence back now.
