Lisandro López - Forward - Lyon (22 Viewers)

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Zacheryah

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Whi do you want then Zach? Geez you preach breaking even ASAP but yet is freaking obvious we need something better upfront. We aren't even creating nearing as many chances as we use to. We cannot always rely on our mids creating chances so obviously we need a forward that can create in their own.

I may be wrong and I apologize but I believe you don't want Drogba, I know you don't want Villa and know you don't want Lopez. Who the heck do you want? Unfortunately most of us want to make a real run at CL so QF although decent isn't satisfying enough and for Juve regardless of previous years isn't good enough so yes we need someone now.
I'm looking at it from a future point of view.

Season objective was title+quarterfinals CL. Since we drew celtic, there is a great chance of this, and if we get our team back togheter, we'll be performing a whole lot better.

Drogba last year, was alike Alex Del Piero in 2009, past it but still having a cracker twice in a month. Its very likely beeing out of real competition, his form dropped significantly. for ~3-3.5 mil i'd loan him if the fee was less then 2 mil. cause of the chance of reaching semi's.

Its now wintermercato. fucking inflated and we allready have 22.4 mil commited this summer from asamoah, isla and perhaps peluso(hope not). IF we now would go sign a lisandro lopez, it rules out any summer signing apart from Llorente.

The board has finances in mind, wich is very sensible and so do i.


What i want, is not to buy players, believe in what we got and how they will improve once cheesio, chiellini, asamoah and vucinic are back or fit. we'll beat celtic and go to quarters. Hence if we manage to go to semi's, we'd break even a year before scheduled.

Why is this great ? because of much higher turnover then we'd anticipated. THIS, would mean we'd actually be able to sign Llorente as our striker AND, sign a class supportstriker like jovetic, or maybe sanchez, perhaps even villa who appears to be recovering much better then expected.

FORGET jovetic, sanchez, villa, if we now be dumbasses and sign a lissandro, we wont nearly got the cash.



You want a big name ? wel breaking even a year before schedule's is the only way the board will allow the investment. and thats why i



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Nardonejuve

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I'm looking at it from a future point of view.

Season objective was title+quarterfinals CL. Since we drew celtic, there is a great chance of this, and if we get our team back togheter, we'll be performing a whole lot better.

Drogba last year, was alike Alex Del Piero in 2009, past it but still having a cracker twice in a month. Its very likely beeing out of real competition, his form dropped significantly. for ~3-3.5 mil i'd loan him if the fee was less then 2 mil. cause of the chance of reaching semi's.

Its now wintermercato. $#@!ing inflated and we allready have 22.4 mil commited this summer from asamoah, isla and perhaps peluso(hope not). IF we now would go sign a lisandro lopez, it rules out any summer signing apart from Llorente.

The board has finances in mind, wich is very sensible and so do i.


What i want, is not to buy players, believe in what we got and how they will improve once cheesio, chiellini, asamoah and vucinic are back or fit. we'll beat celtic and go to quarters. Hence if we manage to go to semi's, we'd break even a year before scheduled.

Why is this great ? because of much higher turnover then we'd anticipated. THIS, would mean we'd actually be able to sign Llorente as our striker AND, sign a class supportstriker like jovetic, or maybe sanchez, perhaps even villa who appears to be recovering much better then expected.

FORGET jovetic, sanchez, villa, if we now be dumbasses and sign a lissandro, we wont nearly got the cash.



You want a big name ? wel breaking even a year before schedule's is the only way the board will allow the investment. and thats why i



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Fair enough. And I do have money finances in mind but you can see the lack of talent or atleast the lack of form we have from our forwards and its been like this for the most part 1 1/2 seasons. We are in a terrible state of form which Mostar even all teams of this level etc the man united barcas arsenal even save talented strikers to get them out of the tight 1-0 0-0 games and we do not have a player that can do that. I'm not saying LL or DD or even Llorente if signed this winter will be that player but it'd a chance that needs to be taken. We cannot lose out on the scudetto(that money is needed to break even) and I know our form will improve but unfortunately those teams that are behind us are close enough and are in good enough from that once we hit fiorentina and CL starts if our form isn't better then our competition we are in trouble. It seems like serie a has figured out our 3-5-2, our clear lack of skill and technical quality on the left is obvious to a child and if we do not improve out r forward line to put in those goals come TE fiorentina game we could be in a much bigger dog fight then we want to be in. I don't think we will and we should spend big amounts but I do feel DD or LL will make a difference plus LL may not be as technical as JoJo but he can play winger and scores goals.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Nah man, they havent "figured it out"


the strenght is having licht and awesomoah lock down the flanks entirely and push em back to their penalty box

having vucinic beeing the mvp he was before he got achilles tendinitis, connecting attack to midfield, creating space for midfield runners and the striker next to him

marchisio, beeing worldclass tactically aware, coupled with devastating forward runs, and vidal, doing the same

freeing up pirlo, to distribute the play from deep, and heck, bonucci if they decide to mark pirlo.


thing is, we lost our left flank, marchisio is out, vucinic is injured. Our playstyle is cryppled because the players who carry it are missing and the replacement isnt near adequate.

when our 4 stars of the season return, we will return to domminate the shit out of opponents

asamoah : best player first month or two
marchisio, player of december
chiellini, by far best defender this season and SO DAMN GOOD, making his other defenders look good aswel
vucinic, most important player of the team offensively

yeah, cant just take that all away without a cost
 

Nardonejuve

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Mar 21, 2010
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No I agree and I know when they return we will be okay once again but the thing is from now and until they are all slatted to return either healthy or from acon. That period it is going to be difficult. I have faith in my team, I do and always will but I do feel a necessary purchase is needed now. If its a worth wild deal. Make that clear! I don't want DD LL is it was costing us ridiculous numbers.
 

icemaη

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I't all because of the NON-EU rule, Asif. I already bought an Indian and an Australian.

Considering I'm a Juve fan, I'll bribe the Federazione Juventuz Gioco Calcio (FJGC), and add you on board as well. Easy peasy. :tup:
I've the gay passport :klin:
 

Cronios

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I'm looking at it from a future point of view.

Season objective was title+quarterfinals CL. Since we drew celtic, there is a great chance of this, and if we get our team back togheter, we'll be performing a whole lot better.

Drogba last year, was alike Alex Del Piero in 2009, past it but still having a cracker twice in a month. Its very likely beeing out of real competition, his form dropped significantly. for ~3-3.5 mil i'd loan him if the fee was less then 2 mil. cause of the chance of reaching semi's.

Its now wintermercato. $#@!ing inflated and we allready have 22.4 mil commited this summer from asamoah, isla and perhaps peluso(hope not). IF we now would go sign a lisandro lopez, it rules out any summer signing apart from Llorente.

The board has finances in mind, wich is very sensible and so do i.


What i want, is not to buy players, believe in what we got and how they will improve once cheesio, chiellini, asamoah and vucinic are back or fit. we'll beat celtic and go to quarters. Hence if we manage to go to semi's, we'd break even a year before scheduled.

Why is this great ? because of much higher turnover then we'd anticipated. THIS, would mean we'd actually be able to sign Llorente as our striker AND, sign a class supportstriker like jovetic, or maybe sanchez, perhaps even villa who appears to be recovering much better then expected.

FORGET jovetic, sanchez, villa, if we now be dumbasses and sign a lissandro, we wont nearly got the cash.



You want a big name ? wel breaking even a year before schedule's is the only way the board will allow the investment. and thats why i



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Thig is that was the case exactly this summer and none of this had happened, just Marotta wasting cash around on other transfer.
What makes you think that smth will change now?
We will never going to sign those big names with him around, we must accept a compromise and so it better be the Llorentes rather than the Borriellos and Bendtners he ussually gets...
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Thig is that was the case exactly this summer and none of this had happened, just Marotta wasting cash around on other transfer.
What makes you think that smth will change now?
We will never going to sign those big names with him around, we must accept a compromise and so it better be the Llorentes rather than the Borriellos and Bendtners he ussually gets...
I'll repeat for the 100th time, so you can totally ignore it and spew your bullshit for the same amount, last summer :

We came of a season with 40 mil deficit, and this season, will have around 15 mil deficit if we lose against celtic, ~8 if we win, and slightly break even if we make semi's.

Striker market :

- RvP : went to man utd for sick wages and a far to high transfer fee. impossible
- Dzeko : since city wasent selling, they could ask what they want, wich would have been 30mil or more.
- Jovetic : fiorentina turned down an offer equivalenting 30 mil
- Higuain : real wasent selling so price would have been 30+mil
- Llorente : last year of contract, simply retarded they demanded the buyout clause

Yup, nothing in the market that we could realistically get. What we did got, was asamoah who was our best player the first two months and is now sorely missed.
We also got isla, who has trouble in his first season after a 6+months injury. He's for the future, for next season
We got pogba, the most promising -21 cm in the world.
And giovinco, who was good at putting games to rest when we are leading, but is now struggeling to replace an injured vucinic.

Nop, not a single striker he could have gotten.

But do go on to totally ignore this, and make up your own facts.
 

Badass J Elkann

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I'll repeat for the 100th time, so you can totally ignore it and spew your bullshit for the same amount, last summer :

We came of a season with 40 mil deficit, and this season, will have around 15 mil deficit if we lose against celtic, ~8 if we win, and slightly break even if we make semi's.

Striker market :

- RvP : went to man utd for sick wages and a far to high transfer fee. impossible
- Dzeko : since city wasent selling, they could ask what they want, wich would have been 30mil or more.
- Jovetic : fiorentina turned down an offer equivalenting 30 mil
- Higuain : real wasent selling so price would have been 30+mil
- Llorente : last year of contract, simply retarded they demanded the buyout clause
actually the little boy inside him is to blame.
 

Nardonejuve

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That is the new offer being reported? It was slatted to be around 9 and he went to 5? Whatever Lyon want something around 12 no? Either way both were to far away and Lyon don't sell on the cheap regardless of their financial situation.

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That is the new offer being reported? It was slatted to be around 9 and he went to 5? Whatever Lyon want something around 12 no? Either way both were to far away and Lyon don't sell on the cheap regardless of their financial situation.
 
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That is the new offer being reported? It was slatted to be around 9 and he went to 5? Whatever Lyon want something around 12 no? Either way both were to far away and Lyon don't sell on the cheap regardless of their financial situation.
After they sold The Benz for 35m, they have been selling on the cheap because of their absence from CL this season.

Kallestrom 3m
Lloris 12.6m
Pjanic 11m
Toulalan 11m
Belfodil 2.5m

No need to mention that his contract is running next year when he is 31 years old, and currently he is one of the highest earners in the team.
I think if Marotta succeeded in bringing Immobile back, he will have all the time and the power position to negotiate Lyon prez to bring this badass on our terms. (could be in the last days of Mercato)
 
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