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baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
LOL nowhere near that level. You do know that Klin even admits he wants the 4-3-3 and for Bonucci to be dropped. Is that biased?
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You do know I want the 433 too right?! And that probably means no Quag. I really like how you're trying to moderate this discussion. The argument cuts both ways. :tup:

I thought you never learn, but that's actually me. I won't speak to you anymore on this matter. You're hopeless and I couldn't care less.:
I haven't quoted you, or involved you in a discussion, in this matter. I even told you a couple of days ago, I'm posting my opinion of the player completely independent of your like/bias for him. So of you couldn't care less, don't come quoting me and starting a discussion on this talentless excuse of a defender.
 

donpiero

Stella D'Argento
Jul 3, 2009
3,370
The problem here is that if COnte insists on the 3-5-2, then a defender with the ball carrying skills of a Bonucci is is necessary.

Whether people like that or not, Juve don't have another central defender who can bring the ball up like Bonucci.


Ogbonna, Barzagli, and Chiellini are more defensive minded CB's.
Honestly ditching this God awful formation would have us gotten rid of 2 liabilities: Seeing Bonucci in the backline and Chiello getting involved in the ball playing part of the game and making a fool of himself in the process.
 
Jul 1, 2010
26,352
When he first arrived Cronios wanted Masi to replace Bonucci. History jinxed him for life :D
He might be a decent Serie A defender one day but calling for his re-call is ridiculous.

Rugani is two years his junior and he is ahead of him in his development.

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i'd still bring him back at least from what i've seen of him he doesn't act like a complete bone head
Rugani looks better and he's only 19.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,996
Lichtsteiner-Barzagli-Chiellini-LB

With Ogbonna as 3rd CB and Caceres as 4th. Use the money from Bonucci's sale to buy a winger.

Problem solved.
whatever just get it done. bonucci is a likeable guy but seriously tonight and against roma mid week is just unforgiveable, call me old fashioned but fucking hell do i miss the days when real defenders existed, hell Montero despite his liability of getting red cards wasn't half as dumb as bonucci is

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Indeed. He can cross though.
yeah i hear those chelsea fans saying he actually has pace though
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,052
whatever just get it done. bonucci is a likeable guy but seriously tonight and against roma mid week is just unforgiveable, call me old fashioned but fucking hell do i miss the days when real defenders existed, hell Montero despite his liability of getting red cards wasn't half as dumb as bonucci is
Yeah, same here. Defenders like Montero, Iuliano, Ferrara, old school, I liked those guys, grew up watching them and their constant battle with opponents (somehow always have images of torn jerseys in my head as they were brutal at times, but did what was expected from them to do), while now we have over here Mr can't tackle Bonucci and defenders of that sort like Luiz or Ramos, who are praised for their technique, ball playing skills, rather than defensive traits.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,996
for me the last of the great defenders died off with Cannavaro and Nesta, now it's all about anyone who can play the ball from the back is now considered a decent defender. quite sad really, what's worse is that for a country like Italy that basically invented the school of defending are producing boneheads like Bonucci, shame there aren't more of the likes of Barzagli to say the least
 

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