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only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
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Even though I don't agree with you, I'd like to know why you think Ranocchia is better...
So you base your opinion on what exactly? It would be interesting to see why you rate Ranocchia higher than Chiellini.
I don't consider Chiellini as that "super talented defender" that guys in this forum think he is. He's great in the air (probably among the best in that "aerial Dep"). Great strength and great at man marking "big attackers" but lacks the quality that i consider the most important part in any great defender and that is confidence.

The guy panics whenever attackers get close to him and it shows. He doesn't have that cool head and confidence that almost all the really talented defenders have. Plus He seriously struggles when faced with pacey attackers specially on the counter.

Like I've said i don't expect guys here to agree with me on this.
 

NitK

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Jul 22, 2008
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I don't consider Chiellini as that "super talented defender" that guys in this forum think he is. He's great in the air (probably among the best in that "aerial Dep"). Great strength and great at man marking "big attackers" but lacks the quality that i consider the most important part in any great defender and that is confidence.

The guy panics whenever attackers get close to him and it shows. He doesn't have that cool head and confidence that almost all the really talented defenders have. Plus He seriously struggles when faced with pacey attackers specially on the counter.

Like I've said i don't expect guys here to agree with me on this.
What are you judging Ranocchia being better than Chiellini on? One good season?

Also the above seems like you're not rating Chiellini's skills rather than his skills being of lower quality to Ranocchia.
 

MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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I would say Ranocchia has a chance to be better than Chiellini but right now he's not. Despite the fact that Chiellini does panic sometimes he still is always there and makes crucial tackles all the time.
 
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I think he deals with pacy attackers quite well. Usually Grosso, DC or someone else in the back is getting roasted and it's George who comes sweeping through to save the day.

Like when we played Parma, Biabiany was having a field day with all of our defenders except George. He was just running by everyone until he would hit the brick wall that is Chiellini.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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I don't consider Chiellini as that "super talented defender" that guys in this forum think he is. He's great in the air (probably among the best in that "aerial Dep"). Great strength and great at man marking "big attackers" but lacks the quality that i consider the most important part in any great defender and that is confidence.

The guy panics whenever attackers get close to him and it shows. He doesn't have that cool head and confidence that almost all the really talented defenders have. Plus He seriously struggles when faced with pacey attackers specially on the counter.

Like I've said i don't expect guys here to agree with me on this.
I know what you are saying in terms of style, but I don't see how you can compare their standing given the level that Chiellini has played at for Juventus and Italy as a starter, and Ranocchia who has had one half of an outstanding season. If you are talking about potential then fair enough.

BTW I don't think Chiellini struggles with pace either, he is not a slowish battler like John Terry or Nemanja Vidic who have to defend with the ball in front of them, but then they have not played in the wider areas he has as well. Chiellini isn't exactly Nesta or Cannavaro in their prime fast but he does get back to make challenges. Lets face it, any defender can struggle against pace, especially if they get the wrong side.
 

The Arif

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Jan 31, 2004
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I don't consider Chiellini as that "super talented defender" that guys in this forum think he is. He's great in the air (probably among the best in that "aerial Dep"). Great strength and great at man marking "big attackers" but lacks the quality that i consider the most important part in any great defender and that is confidence.

The guy panics whenever attackers get close to him and it shows. He doesn't have that cool head and confidence that almost all the really talented defenders have. Plus He seriously struggles when faced with pacey attackers specially on the counter.

Like I've said i don't expect guys here to agree with me on this.

I don't agree with your opinion, but I respect it nonetheless. But you still didn't give an answer to my question. I can rephrase it if you want: What makes Ranocchia better than Chiellini other than half a season of good performances for Bari?
 

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