Lars Vilks attacked by radicals in Uppsala (5 Viewers)

Mar 10, 2009
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I agree but I don't think the issue here is countries, but rather religion....

well ok,

the only thing I have to say, is that we should look at the intention and come to the two conclusions I already said:

either:

1. all freedom, nothing getting censored all all. I mean bashing anyone and anything is permissible

or

2. censor entertainment which INTENDS to offend ppl

HOWEVER

if you believe that picture wasn't constructed to offend, then we'll just have to leave at that.

at the end of the day, I don't want this thread to get one of us banned. I come here to talk about juventus. My purpose wasnt for all this to happen.

if you feel that the guy was right , then its your opinion. Im just responding to andy's question to why I thought so. There's nothing more I have to say
 
Apr 12, 2004
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well ok,

the only thing I have to say, is that we should look at the intention and come to the two conclusions I already said:

either:

1. all freedom, nothing getting censored all all. I mean bashing anyone and anything is permissible

or

2. censor entertainment which INTENDS to offend ppl

HOWEVER

if you believe that picture wasn't constructed to offend, then we'll just have to leave at that.

at the end of the day, I don't want this thread to get one of us banned. I come here to talk about juventus. My purpose wasnt for all this to happen.

if you feel that the guy was right , then its your opinion. Im just responding to andy's question to why I thought so. There's nothing more I have to say
Two problems:

1) Libel and slander laws.
2) How do you define intent?
 
Mar 10, 2009
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you say every country has good and bad, and that we should not judge them. THE ARGUMENT HERE IS THAT MUSLIMS ATTACKED A CARTOONIST FOR EXPRESSING HIS FREEDOM OF SPEECH RIGHT IN A COUNTRY THAT VALUES FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

and if you look at what I said, and when I brought the Matterazzi example.

I said that the muslims didn't do the right thing, but the guy deserved it because I believed he intentionally looked to annoy them

just like matterazzi deserved to be head butted, but zidane never acted in the right mannor
 
Mar 10, 2009
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ßüякε;2495450 said:

burke I dont wanna accidently offend you or cause a riot.

Your one of my favorite users, and one of the few mods I trust. if you feel this is going to far, then I'm more then willing to stop it there
 
Apr 12, 2004
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burke I dont wanna accidently offend you or cause a riot.

Your one of my favorite users, and one of the few mods I trust. if you feel this is going to far, then I'm more then willing to stop it there
I'm the least offendable member here, you have nothing to worry about.

I think the argument hasn't gone far enough, you've all done well to control yourselves.
 

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