Lars Vilks attacked by radicals in Uppsala (3 Viewers)

[Ventus]

Don't exaggerate man, it's just a debate.

wheres the debate? whats the question? I see no debate?

all I saw was yet another "lets point out another bad thing muslims do, to give islam a bad impression"

This has gotten really confusing, i dont know who is arguing what anymore

it was never a debate,

it was only until I brought up the "he was asking for it" that it turned into one

 

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[Lion]

Don't exaggerate man, it's just a debate.


That's all you needed to say to make a joke of your post. But then again the best is yet to come:

Now you're actually trying to prove that muslims are all terrorists just because a few of the idiots every relegion/country/ideology suffers from does such disgusting actions. Now that is as idiotic as it gets. And you seriously need to get back to basics old man, when a freakin group of idiots who claim they're muslims decide to blow up children in school, it's themselves they're representing not muslims. Unless you're too much of a racist to see that and then neither me or anyone can help you.

To your second point now, how the fuck did you made the conclusion that muslim countries didn't/aren't standing against radicalism? Get your facts straight before you post such BS. Muslim countries have always fought against radicals. countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan have had more losses from such battles than all the west has in the past century as a result to fighting terrorism. So don't you even come up with such a BS before you know what the hell you're talking about.

so angry. when did i say that all muslims are terrorists? i said that muslims need to stand up tp radicalims, which they are not, at least not as many as should be. how is saudia arabia and pakistan standing to radicalism when there are still backwards governemnts and idead still strong within the roots? pakistan is one coutnry where radical groups are in prime position to take over.

wanna know why extremist idealogies exist in the middle east? because muslims. the ones who cinsider themselves good allow it to exist through fear, ignorance and in some ways sympathy.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Embarrassing, my home town and Uni, recognize few in that clip too.

And Andy, they went specifically for that one would think. Though it takes 1 idiot to make the others react like that.

Home town?

This didn't happen in Mogadishu.

I can understand why they would be offended aswell, they still have no fucking right to not be offended. Its fucking pathetic and im sick of it, its childish and fundamentally goes against western democratic values. I know i will sound right wing but if you move into a country then you adhere to their rules and laws, If those laws include the freedom of speech then you have no right to complain about what is said in that country.

If this were happening in iran then it would be a different matter, just as stupid, but slightly more legitimate.

This culture of fear due to the preservation of a basic human right is absolutely fucking ridiculous.

Um, come again? They HAVE the right to complain, its the same freedom of speech you are talking about. They can demonstrate, rally against something they dont like or offends them, even if its the most silly thing ever( I mean in general, not just this topic). What crosses the line is reacting violently to it.

But you just answered your own question, they had the right to demonstrate, but they couldn't attack him.

Religious people ought to grow up and act on what they preach. Instead of fighting for their saviors "honor" they ought to emulate them. Then people will take them seriously.

In other words do what Muhammed would do.

not many considering crime is so low, there have been plenty of bbc reports which indicate that saudi arabia although very restrictive, but has the least crime by a margin.

saudi arabia is a country with both positives and negatives, just like any other in the world.

and no I don't see why I should be silent, if this is a topic for debate, and i'm not breaking any rules then I don't see why I should.

Yes, but Singapore has extremely low crime rates too, and it's not because of religion, it's because of society. You can be arrested and imprisoned in Singapore for spitting your gum out onto the street. Their laws are so extreme that it results in low crime because a person that assaults someone gets the same sentence as one here in the States gets for murder.

 

[Ventus]

Yes, but Singapore has extremely low crime rates too, and it's not because of religion, it's because of society. You can be arrested and imprisoned in Singapore for spitting your gum out onto the street. Their laws are so extreme that it results in low crime because a person that assaults someone gets the same sentence as one here in the States gets for murder.

your right, im not saying it has anything to do with religion. i'm just responding to the countless lets interfere in other ppls cultures and be ignorent about them.

my point is, every country in the world has good and bad. So instead of making fun of other cultures, lets fix ours

 

[Lion]

lol so the whole world is supposed to go by "what this random guy on the internet" has said. I've been to the middle east, and I found ppl praying in the streets with there shops wide open and unlocked.




lol

- rape games
- vending machines (consisting of all school girls undies)
- blow job bars
- men dropping real women for anime dolls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Y5oNw8PD4

and the list goes on, no one knows about the kinky horrors in japan, unless they've been or researched it.

I've been to japan and I've seen it. but I don't hate the country, it's a country with both positives and negatives just like any other

you cannot be this thick.....you must be trolling.

HOW CAN YOU SAY RAPE GAMES ARE THE SAME AS REAL LIFE? what now are you saying i'm guilty because i play video games where i shoot hundreds of people just like someone who shoots hundreds in real life?

and if you've really been to the middle east then you'd know arabs can be among the most racist and ignorant people on the planet.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

your right, im not saying it has anything to do with religion. i'm just responding to the countless lets interfere in other ppls cultures and be ignorent about them.

I don't think he was ignorant in showing the picture, I think the Muslims were ignorant in not respecting the Swedish culture.

 

[Lion]

your right, im not saying it has anything to do with religion. i'm just responding to the countless lets interfere in other ppls cultures and be ignorent about them.

so then it's not ok when someone makes cartoons about mohammed for western culture, but it's ok when said cartoonist is thretend with death by muslims who live in said western culture?

 

[Ventus]

HOW CAN YOU SAY RAPE GAMES ARE THE SAME AS REAL LIFE? what now are you saying i'm guilty because i play video games where i shoot hundreds of people just like someone who shoots hundreds in real life?

Hell yea for civilized Japanese entertainment

 

[Bjerknes]

I don't think he was ignorant in showing the picture, I think the Muslims were ignorant in not respecting the Swedish culture.

And not respecting freedom of speech, which should be a basic human right, but isn't because of IslamoFascists and criminal governments.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

so then it's not ok when someone makes cartoons about mohammed for western culture, but it's ok when said cartoonist is thretend with death by muslims who live in said western culture?

Exactly, who here is being ignorant...

 

[Ventus]

so then it's not ok when someone makes cartoons about mohammed for western culture, but it's ok when said cartoonist is thretend with death by muslims who live in said western culture?

no we have neither and the problem is solved

there you go

easy wasnt it

 

[Osman]

Home town?

This didn't happen in Mogadishu.



But you just answered your own question, they had the right to demonstrate, but they couldn't attack him.

Didnt say city I was born in, but home town, as in the one I called home for 16 years.

I did not say they could, already questionned that behaviour, but was correcting Jasper who said they cant complain. Complaining means being verbally against something, not attacking them physicially.

 

[Lion]

Hell yea for civilized Japanese entertainment

what are you trying to prove? that japanese people are weird because they have strange fantasies?

then tell me which is worse, a weird FANTASY (you know that hurts no one) or marrying an 9 year old, or stoning a woman that was raped.

please do

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Hell yea for civilized Japanese entertainment

The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife (蛸と海女 Tako to ama?, Octopus/Octopi and Shelldiver) is an erotic woodcut of the ukiyo-e genre made around 1820 by the Japanese artist Hokusai. Perhaps the first instance of tentacle erotica, it depicts a woman entwined sexually with a pair of octopi, the smaller of which wraps one of its tentacles around the woman's nipple and kisses her, while the larger one performs cunnilingus (or is mating with her the only way it could). Hokusai created The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife during the Edo period, when Shinto was making a resurgence[...].

Shinto (神道 Shintō?) or kami-no-michi is the indigenous spirituality of Japan and the Japanese people. It is best conceived of as a set of practices, carried out diligently to establish a connection between present day Japan and its ancient past.





Your using this is as dumb as using the Renaissance or Expressionism, any artistic period where women were naked and used as objects of beauty, as an example.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Didnt say city I was born in, but home town, as in the one I called home for 16 years.

I did not say they could, already questionned that behaviour, but was correcting Jasper who said they cant complain. Complaining means being verbally against something, not attacking them physicially.

word

 

[Lion]

no we have neither and the problem is solved

there you go

easy wasnt it

so you don't want freedom of speech?

i don't think you understand what it means to live in fear.

it starts with not offeding someone with drawing cartoons.

next thing you know you are not allowed to eact a certain meat in front of someone because to offends a group.

after that it's because they don't like the way you dress.

after that it's because they don't like the music.

if people don't stand up for basic rights, fear will take over. fear of offeding a minority

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

OHHH SHIT, THIS IS CRAZY!

 

[Lion]

yeah bro that is worse than killing someone

 

[Ventus]

then tell me which is worse, a weird FANTASY (you know that hurts no one) or marrying an 9 year old,

heres the answer


as for the punishment the woman wasnt punished for rape you moron. She and the man were punished for a adultury. Something that occured before the rape

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[Osman]

Honestly, the topic doesnt matter, when its, with all due respect, 4 pages of arguing with FootieDeebo, waste of time IMO.